Witch Cottagers await us?

So here we are facing crisis again, losing Son, Kane, Sissoko, and three points against United.

Such are the slender margins seasons are shaped on, when you look at some of the points Liverpool have picked up or clung on to compared to some of the points we’ve thrown away or narrowly missed out on.

But this is one of the gifts Pochettino and this Spurs team have given us these past few seasons:  after years of relative mediocrity interspersed with the occasional promising season, we’re finally in a position where slender margins matter, where setbacks have the potential to damage so much more than a single weekend’s bragging rights.

And Sunday can be viewed as a setback – our first home Prem loss to United since the days of Sir Alex, another reverse in a game we won quite comfortably last season, and injuries to two key players further depleting a squad that some people insist was already starting to look thin.

I prefer to look at the positives though.  Following a first half where we gave as good as we got but often looked vulnerable to breaks down the flanks, we really gave a good account of ourselves in the second half and did more than enough to win comfortably, creating chance upon chance as we did against Everton.

If only we’d managed to finish our chances the way we did that afternoon, and if only Phil Jones wasn’t such an utter donkey, how giddy would we all be feeling right now?

Instead we’re mulling over more questions about Kieran Trippier’s fitness for purpose and wondering how we’re going to cope without Kane.

For me, the Trippier mistake is one of those things that will always happen to a defender in a team trying to play passing football.   Yes, it was sloppy, yes, it’s not the first time he’s cost us this season, but it’s the sort of error Walker always had in his locker.  As much as I loved Walker and prefer his all-action style to Trippier’s, he made 8 more appearances for City last season and made one more assist, forty-four less crosses (with a 9% accuracy rating compared to Trippier’s 19%) and, in a team that was head and shoulders above any other in the land, had yet another Bonzo moment which contributed to City being dumped out of the FA Cup by Wigan.

Back to Trippier’s own Bonzo moment against United, just like the one he made against City, it was seized on ruthlessly by the opposition, compounded by Verts being undone for pace and, if you agree with the Match of the Day 2 analysis, Hugo positioning himself slightly too far outside his near post.  Against many other teams in the league, it probably would have ended in a covering tackle or a comfortable smother for Hugo, and I don’t see it as any more criminal than Eriksen’s loss of the ball against Wolves which eventually led to the corner they equalised from.

It’s still the sort of error we need to seriously cut down on if we ever do plan to keep pace with whatever teams are setting the pace at the top of the league in the future, though, no matter who it is making the cock-up.

As for the Kane injury, my impression at the time was that it was a definite foul, but it was no surprise Dean missed it.  The guy was useless all through the game, missing what looked like obvious pull-backs all over the park, a potential red-card for Pogba, and, even more infuriating, doing utterly nothing to stop United’s blatant second half time-wasting.   I also wasn’t impressed with how poor our physio team’s response was, with only one blue-glove finally going over to him and then allowing him to hobble off alone, even though it seemed obvious he’d knackered something.

Despite all this, I’m looking forward to how we line up and perform against Fulham.   Against Leicester, when Kane was rested for the majority of the game, Dele was either deployed as a front man or decided to play as one for the fun of it, and really looked the part.  At Bournemouth last March, we were one down after seven minutes and looked leggy until their keeper knackered Kane thirty-four minutes in.  One minute later, Dele equalised, and we eventually ran out 4-1 winners.  Reports back then suggested Kane, and, therefore, Spurs, would be knacked for a month.  He actually made his return in the 74th minute in the 1-3 win against Chelsea on April Fool’s day, missing only our emphatic 0-3 FA Cup quarter final win against Swansea.

Some, though, would argue he didn’t look the same player until earlier this season.  While I don’t agree with that, I’m not overly keen on the fact Kane plays virtually every minute of every game he’s available for, and only really gets sustained rests when his ankle ligaments give out.  He’s definitely a world-class player – on Sunday – and at plenty of other times this season – the occasions he dropped deep to win the ball, turn, and pick out an overlapping player, he really did highlight the strength and vision of the sort of midfielder who would raise this team’s level yet another notch – but the performances against Bournemouth and Swansea last season show we’ve enough options in the squad to blow away many of the middling Prem teams without flogging our talisman to death or depleting Uncle Joe’s retirement fund.  Even without Son to call on, properly utilising Llorente or Moura – or trying something slightly different with Alli or Lamela up top – should give us more than enough goal threat to see us through against Fulham if the rest of the team are on their game:  Despite Ranieri’s mid-November appointment, they’re still deep in the mire, second from bottom, five points from safety, having lost their last two games, 4-1 away against Arsenal and 2-1 away against Burnley.  They did beat Huddersfield in their last home Prem outing, though, and also had a better time of it against Wolves than we would three days later, holding them to a 1-1 draw at the Cottage.

As for our record against them, we’ve won our last four games – three prem, one FA Cup – and have to go back to December 2009 since we last dropped points at the Cottage.  We did lose a shocker of a third-round FA Cup tie 4-0 there in Jan 2011, though, with Redknapp no doubt gutted not to have an FA Cup semi-final debacle against Pompey or Chelsea to worry about that season.  We’ve dropped points to them in the Prem since then, too, with a one-nil home loss in March 2013 helping Arsenal reduce a seven point gap to one point just two games after we’d beaten the immigrants 2-1 at home and AVB had made his negative spiral comment:  Although, to be fair to AVB, his very next words were ‘Seven points is not big enough in the Premier League, because this time last year Arsenal came back (from a similar deficit)’, so the statement wasn’t really the premature gloat some Arsenal fans are still banging on about now.

As for us this time last season, we’d just drawn at home to the Spammers in a laboured performance and were about to thwump the Toffees 4-0 at our temporary home.  We were seven points worse off than we are now, fifth in the league, and obviously doomed to miss out on CL football in our first ever season at our new home; Levy out:  Blah-blah-blah.

In terms of comparative fixtures, we’d just strolled to a 2-0 Wembley win over Mourinho’s United.  Swapping Fulham – who came up via the play-offs, so were arguably the weakest of the promoted teams – for West Brom – who propped up the Prem at the end of last season, so were definitely the weakest of the relegated teams (or, at least, the only ones managed by both Tony Pulis and Alan Pardew in the same season) – we did a Spursy and donated three-points to the Patron Saint of Lost Causes in our last away game of the season, conceding the only goal of the game in the 92nd minute to Jake Livermore, of all people.   This left us fourth, only a couple of points clear of Chelsea in fifth, which was yet more proof we were chokers, would screw up our last two games, and obviously doomed to miss out on CL football in our first ever season at our new home; Levy out:  Blah-blah-blah.

Of course, with only sixteen Prem fixtures left to play, there are rumours swirling this won’t be our first ever season at our new home.   When Fulham came to Wembley on 18th August for our first ‘home’ game this season, it was less than a week after the club had confirmed the Liverpool and Cardiff games would be held at Wembley.  We won that game 3-1, a lovely Moura goal being cancelled out by a Mitrovic leveller in the 52nd minute before Trippier and Kane goals in the 74th and 77th minutes secured us the points and our 100% start to the season.

This time around, with Liverpool facing Palace at home and City playing Huddersfield away – and Chelsea and Arsenal playing each other – three points is utterly essential to make sure we keep within wishing distance of the two at the top and capitalise on whichever one of the two underneath us drops points: Potentially even better, a draw in that game and a win for us would see the gap between us and Arsenal up to nine points, with the gap between us and Chelsea slightly extended to three ahead of next week’s second-leg semi at The Bridge.

Lose, though, and we could find the gap between ourselves and Arsenal in fifth ominously dropping from seven to four, well and truly in a negative spiral, doomed to miss out on CL football in our first ever full season at our new home…

Levy out!

Blah-blah-blah!!

Comments
  • Caspurs 20/01/2019 at 11:12 pm

    Just seen Salah’s DIVE,and certainly was a DIVE.

    • UnkleTaff 20/01/2019 at 11:35 pm

      It was a shocker. If video evidence has a place in the game it should be to retroactively punish players like Salah for blatantly cheating.

    • Chauvelin 23/01/2019 at 12:51 pm

  • Northern Spur 20/01/2019 at 11:31 pm

    The Sun is touting Andy Carroll as a shock £2 million emergency target for Spurs. Isn’t our treatment room not full enough already?

    • McG ⚽⚽ 20/01/2019 at 11:38 pm

      Think I’d take him over Llorente as it happens!

      • Northern Spur 20/01/2019 at 11:40 pm

        Your mind appears well and truly made-up, McG.

        • McG ⚽⚽ 20/01/2019 at 11:46 pm

          I’ll get over it, just so disappointing. Was expecting much much more was all. That’s gotta be his worste display for us by a country mile.

          • Chauvelin 20/01/2019 at 11:49 pm

            Nothing stuck to him. The balls he received routinely went bouncing straight to Fulham players.

    • Chauvelin 20/01/2019 at 11:48 pm

      For medical experimentation?

      • Caspurs 20/01/2019 at 11:50 pm

        No, it’s to make Llorente feel better about his misses.

        • Chauvelin 20/01/2019 at 11:52 pm

          Or we could get Mario Balotelli? No goals and one assist in his 10 matches for Nice.

          • McG ⚽⚽ 20/01/2019 at 11:55 pm

            Nice. He’s the sorta arsehole who’d get a hat trick at Citeh for us, then get sent off against dips the following week!

            • McG ⚽⚽ 20/01/2019 at 11:57 pm

              He’s still only 28!!!! Bring him in for cage fights with Aurier, I’d pay to watch that!!

        • Freund or Foe 20/01/2019 at 11:53 pm

          Why, is Carroll’s missus a munter?

          • Freund or Foe 20/01/2019 at 11:58 pm

            Thanks, put a .con on my deets 🙃

  • HD 🇺🇸 21/01/2019 at 12:17 am

    An ugly win is still a win. Nothing ugly about GKN to Winks. COYS,

    • Paleo 21/01/2019 at 12:39 am

      Exactly,can you imagine the grief Llorente and Co would be getting if we missed the same amount of sitters as the sick notes did last week.

      • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 8:47 am

        There was plenty of grief last week.

  • Elyid 21/01/2019 at 9:01 am

    I like this never say die attitude Potch has installed, they believed they would score and they never let their heads drop. Llorente had a a bit of a stinker but it is to early to throw him under the bus. In my opinion.

    • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 9:04 am

      Llorente is fit so he plays. The way the players are dropping out we’ll have Janssen back too.

    • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 21/01/2019 at 10:43 am

      My thoughts as well Elyid, he got a hatrick previous game admittedly against inferior opposition but I think he’s the sort of player that needs regular game time to show his real worth. He must play better next match as he almost had a negative impact yesterday to the extent I’m not sure whether we would have missed him if we only had 10.

      • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 10:56 am

        Llorente really looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights yesterday in terms of pressure on him and the own goal was lets face it was the absolute worst case scenario for him. Lets not forget that Harry Kane has scored a couple of beauties himself as I remember. In terms of getting off Llorente’s back we have no choice but to get behind him and hope that Thursday there is a tap in for him and a spike in his confidence as he could do with a break after yesterday.

  • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 21/01/2019 at 11:42 am

    Llorente is being made the big scapegoat in this one as far as o overall game went but the fact is that some of our players produced little for much of the game. This was LLorente’s worst game by a mile,there is no doubt and on a day when we needed his best. But many of our players failed to move the ball quick enough for most of the game with not a lot of space available to us. But Fulham all game somehow found space though didnt do much with it. We did have 5 at the back and often there still were many gap.
    I think Bruxie was right about his Dier estimation. Poch had 3 CB’s which was overkill except it didnt.That didnt allow for an extra MF but CB’s I think meant that the counter was the strategy but it didnt happen as our attacks were as slow as they’ve ever been. In the end we did put on Dier,we did get more fluid with Winks moving more and we won. Its good to win ugly but with the injuries we have and the quality generally lately not being great,its a daunting time.
    It will offer the kids more opportunities as we wait to see if anyone else comes in to help. Its Poch throwing the dice by default not planning

    • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 21/01/2019 at 11:44 am

      I was going to use the word Bruxet somewhere

  • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 21/01/2019 at 11:59 am

    Agree with a lot of that Ron except for the bit a about Fulham finding space all game long. They had a 10/15 minute period before half time when the applied some sustained pressure otherwise we were restricting them to punts up field to Mitro which we handled mostly well. The difficulty as usual when a team are defending with 10 men is breaking them down and in that respect I don’t think we’re much worse than others except probably Citeh. Even the dippers struggle to do it a lot of the time.

    • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 21/01/2019 at 12:11 pm

      I think they found space all game long but not all the time. I felt when they attacked they found much more space than we did even with our 5 at the back.Also they were more route one.They didnt attack for the majority of the game but they did get the ball up quicker than we did and they did have players open even if we had a host more players in the area.We were light in Mid and maybe that was the reason but Poch didnt change anything till a lot later.
      Yes all teams have the problem of the weaker teams getting behind the ball but the antithesis is about finding the solution. No teams start off with all their players behind the ball,they get there if the attacking team slowly builds up. Passing side to side doesnt really do anything except give the other team more time. People talk about changing the angles when they do that but I find those incessant passes going back end up a lot putting pressure on ourselves by letting Lloris kick it out. In any case it doesnt help the flow no matter what the stats say.

    • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 21/01/2019 at 12:12 pm

      This bloke writes good articles..

      http://www.allactionnoplot.com/

      • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 21/01/2019 at 12:57 pm

        Good read Ron.

  • Caspurs 21/01/2019 at 12:18 pm

    Ronwol1960-61

    I think they found space all game long but not all the time.

    A most classic Ronism indeed…

    • 89Spurs 👁 21/01/2019 at 1:03 pm

      Ron, is in own space, outer I think!

    • Ronwol196061 21/01/2019 at 1:04 pm

      No need to call it classic I’m not lowering the price of my book to pre Roman Empire pricing

  • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 12:20 pm

    Facky hell Fofty I just read it’s minus 40 on the East Coast, I hope you remembered your thermals!

    • Freund or Foe 21/01/2019 at 12:47 pm

      Yes I did, thankfully. We’re being told to stay inside by New York governor, but I’ve got to check out in a few hours, and flight isn’t until 9 this eve.

      • Flat Oeuf 21/01/2019 at 1:14 pm

        Brrrrruddy hell, mate. Stay safe.

      • Ronwol196061 21/01/2019 at 1:14 pm

        Maybe you can pay for a later checkout

  • UnkleTaff 21/01/2019 at 12:20 pm

    Hugo Lloris pulled off two outstanding saves which hugely contributed to our coming away with all three points. Again.

    Just sayin’.

    • Freund or Foe 21/01/2019 at 12:49 pm

      There’s no doubt he’s a great shot stopper. Just wish he knew how to catch a football, it’s quite a basic goalkeeping requirement.

      • Hartley 21/01/2019 at 1:06 pm

        There’s no doubt he’s a great shot stopper but so is a headstone or a telephone box or a scarecrow etc.

        • Hartley 21/01/2019 at 1:10 pm

          If you hit the ball straight at em.

          • Ronwol196061 21/01/2019 at 1:12 pm

            I once went into a telephone box and it dived left

            • Hartley 21/01/2019 at 2:39 pm

              I can’t answer that.

              • McG ⚽⚽ 21/01/2019 at 5:01 pm

                That’s cos it don’t ring true.

  • GDawg 21/01/2019 at 12:54 pm

    I wonder what TBH made of GNKD’s pearler of a cross to Winks for the winner? We were pretty lucky to walk out of there with the 3 points

    • Caspurs 21/01/2019 at 12:56 pm

      You say lucky but if Llorente had taken his chances it coulda shoulda woulda been a different story.

      • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 12:59 pm

        The header in the second half, ffs it was much harder to glance it so slightly in order for it to miss than hit the target Shirley?

        • 89Spurs 👁 21/01/2019 at 1:01 pm

          Who are you calling Shirley?

          • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 1:03 pm

            Dunno but could she play up front and do a job for the team?

            • 89Spurs 👁 21/01/2019 at 1:04 pm

              Easy tiger, what job for the team?

              • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 1:10 pm

                Hold the ball up, lay it off to a Spurs player, score the odd goal (for Spurs) and don’t look like your about to burst into tears.

                • GDawg 21/01/2019 at 1:21 pm

                  Sandra could have nodded that in better than Llorente

                • Fatty B 21/01/2019 at 5:02 pm

                  If Spurs89 wants to burst into tears he can.

    • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 1:02 pm

      Was it lucky when Manure won so many games in the dying minuets under Slur Alex?

      • Ronwol196061 21/01/2019 at 1:06 pm

        Shirley it’s just one aspect of the game, let’s talk about the other 85 minutes

  • Hartley 21/01/2019 at 1:07 pm

    Llorente will get better with minutes on the pitch.

    • Caspurs 21/01/2019 at 1:08 pm

      Starting on Thursday!

      • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 21/01/2019 at 1:09 pm

        I wish that.

        • Caspurs 21/01/2019 at 1:11 pm

          Make it so..

    • Ronwol196061 21/01/2019 at 1:08 pm

      By minute amounts on the pitch?

    • 89Spurs 👁 21/01/2019 at 1:09 pm

      You have to give him a fair run with Kane, Son and now Dele.

      • 89Spurs 👁 21/01/2019 at 1:10 pm

        *Injured

    • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 21/01/2019 at 1:11 pm

      Hopefully he’ll at least run abaht abit next time.

      • Hartley 21/01/2019 at 1:19 pm

        …and not defend any corners.

      • 89Spurs 👁 21/01/2019 at 1:22 pm

        When’s Harry coming back, I miss his press conferences.

  • GDawg 21/01/2019 at 1:22 pm

    Didn’t anyone tell Fernando it’s OK to score goals for fun, just not in our goal????

  • Elyid 21/01/2019 at 1:33 pm

    Would it be fair to say that due to his threat in the air Llorente draws the big defenders away leaving opportunities for the likes of Ali and Winks to exploit if the cross is accurate?

    • Hartley 21/01/2019 at 1:46 pm

      I do believe that it would be fair to say that.

      • HD 🇺🇸 21/01/2019 at 1:55 pm

        I was rather harsh on the big fella yesterday. In retrospect I think his game is consumed in rust. I think it is fair to say that due to our injury situation he will be an active Brillo pad in an effort to remove the rust. Poch has limited options and he is a choice that is almost necessary. He is fresh and does have skill.

    • GDawg 21/01/2019 at 1:47 pm

      Call me old fashioned but I think his primary role is to score goals, mostly with headers from crosses

      • GDawg 21/01/2019 at 1:48 pm

        To be fair though he has barely played in the league this year. Putting a bunch past a pub team is at a decidedly lower level

        • Elyid 21/01/2019 at 1:55 pm

          Primary role yes but maybe Poch recognises the opportunities for others in the spaces left behind?

      • Hartley 21/01/2019 at 1:54 pm

        There is that argument as well but look at Giroud for France and how he can’t score for toffee but gets picked every game because of the way he is involved in some respect with each and every goal they score.

  • SeattleSpursGuy 21/01/2019 at 1:55 pm

    Here’s a blast from the past: He’s 39 years old btw:

    • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 21/01/2019 at 2:25 pm

      Blimey, don’t remember him being ginger!

  • Bruxie 21/01/2019 at 1:58 pm

    It’s all rather simple this footy lark…

    I like the back three with two wingbacks…but a team needs a covering midfielder in front of the back three. And two more midfielders in front of the DM to create.
    We missed a Dier presence for eighty-odd mins) yesterday to protect our back three and to release Winks and Eriksen.

    Winks and Eriksen and someone up front.

    There is the Thursday line up.
    Someone up front.
    Llorente, Moura, Sterling, Janssen.
    Anyone else?

    • Bruxie 21/01/2019 at 2:08 pm

      It’s also time for Poch to “push” the players to the limit.

      I’ve heard all season rumblings that we should always play our strongest team.
      We need to do that now for the next four matches…

      …Or do as Beasty says and throw one of the cup matches to preserve our season.

      Strongest possible team for me. All the successful teams of the 90s and 00s did.
      Why can’t we?

      • Elyid 21/01/2019 at 2:14 pm

        I agree with that, the squads are big enough, put them to the test on every match we have left and see what they have to offer

        • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 2:28 pm

          Nothing wrong with the squad apart from Sonny being away it is purely the key injuries, Kane, Dele, Lucas, Wanyama, Sissoko all out with Sonny away, throw in the sale of Dembele which at this moment in time seems barking mad.

        • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 2:31 pm

          Oops, I misread what you said there!
          I think we will put out a very scratch team against Palace that will be there for the taking, if they put out a strong team we shall likely get done.

          • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 2:33 pm

            I wouldn’t mind MP starting with young Sterling for that game.

    • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 21/01/2019 at 2:26 pm

      Lamela?

      • Caspurs 21/01/2019 at 2:30 pm

        Bruxie sold him last night.

        • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 2:33 pm

          How much did that add to the coffers?

          • Caspurs 21/01/2019 at 2:36 pm

            Enough to pay for a pint of kronenbourg.

            • Bruxie 21/01/2019 at 2:52 pm

              Over priced based on his performance last night!

              • Caspurs 21/01/2019 at 3:00 pm

                That could apply to quite a few of them yesterday.

                • Bruxie 21/01/2019 at 3:03 pm

                  Until we got Dier on.

      • Bruxie 21/01/2019 at 3:03 pm

        Bench.

  • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 3:13 pm

    I was surprised at the stats. We had 73% possession, so considering the number of Fulham attacks first half, we must have totally bossed them second half about 90%. We did improve, I think we struggled to find room because of the changes up front and that ought to become easier with more games playing Llorente.

    • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 3:14 pm

      Lamela needs to find his touch now Dele is out for a while.

  • Bruxie 21/01/2019 at 3:16 pm

    Of course, playing the strongest team for the next few games will involve getting a couple of players back from injury and unavailability.
    Sissoko. Moura. Son. Wanyama.

    What’s not to like? Apart from Kane & Dele.

    • Caspurs 21/01/2019 at 3:19 pm

      Not sure about Wanyama, he was very rusty when he last came back from injury, it’d be nice to play him in some less important games first (if there are any?) to get him up to speed.

      • Bruxie 21/01/2019 at 3:21 pm

        Yerp.

        On the bench…then spell Dier when we are leading. Fantasy footy at it’s best!

    • Bruxie 21/01/2019 at 3:19 pm

      In other words…I’m not bothered about new signings.

  • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 3:21 pm

    I was annoyed that MOTD didn’t see fit to show Mitrovic get Sanchez in a headlock only for the dumb arse ref to book both. Sanchez didn’t retaliate do it should have been shown to a wider public that Sanchez was innocent, Mitrovic is a thug, and the ref needs spectacles. Craig Pawson I believe, who also couldn’t see that Rose was brought down, not a dive.

    • Bruxie 21/01/2019 at 3:23 pm

      Nothing retrospective, alas.

      Why refs cannot rescind yellow is beyond me.

      • Bruxie 21/01/2019 at 3:27 pm

        I’m not asking for another panel…but only for the ref to routinely review his decisions after each match.

      • Caspurs 21/01/2019 at 3:29 pm

        The system governing retrospective action, whether that be rescinding cards or further punishment needs to be seriously looked at. Just because the ref believes they’ve seen the incident and included it in their report, doesn’t mean they have a full appreciation of what actually occurred, it’s a fudge at best.

    • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 21/01/2019 at 3:28 pm

      Or for his subsequent shove on Sanchez (Rose?) later on as the ball went for a throw, which should have got him set off.

  • Bruxie 21/01/2019 at 3:35 pm

    Pawson is joining Dean in my list of hated referees.

    He’s incompetent.

    • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 3:48 pm

      Mike Dean is incontinent.

    • Hartley 21/01/2019 at 4:08 pm

      Pawson
      Taylor
      Moss
      Dean
      Atkinson
      Oliver
      All of the above are sub standard.

  • Elyid 21/01/2019 at 3:50 pm

    You would think that with the riches of the premier league the standard of referees would have improved? Not like they earn a pittance

    • Ronwol196061 21/01/2019 at 4:27 pm

      Elyid we watch plays from 15 angles in slow motion so we are experts.
      Last night in NFL football conference final the same and they have 15 officials and 48 cameras and they get it wrong.

      • Shelfy 21/01/2019 at 4:29 pm

        Too true, and this morning that’s all the sports chanels are showing is the one badly blown call!

        • Ronwol196061 21/01/2019 at 4:30 pm

          I admit it was terrible.

        • Ronwol196061 21/01/2019 at 4:32 pm

          The coach of New England is a wily one for sure…
          He is more Bielsa than Bielsa is

    • Shelfy 21/01/2019 at 4:28 pm

      We can but hope but to be honest I don’t think the standard will ever really improve. I think the refs do their best, they are well trained but a couple of things have changed over the years which makes it harder for them.
      First premier league pitches are a much higher standard with couple with the rules that reduce physical contact have made the game much much faster than it used to be making it difficult for a ref to see what happens in a slit second
      Secondly we have TV at every game with dozens of cameras giving footage from every angle and in close up so every decision is scrutinized after the event and of course mistakes are made. Years ago the same mistakes were made but nobody really knew.
      Frustrating as it is to see the mistakes I take the view it is part of the game and you win some decisions and you lose some.

      • Ronwol196061 21/01/2019 at 4:37 pm

        I agree with you Shelfy. How about Muhammad Alis phantom puch against Sonny Liston or the Hand of God. We could have a classic Screw Up’s of all time. I do agree that

      • Caspurs 21/01/2019 at 4:43 pm

        As most league game have cameras present these days, I personally think (as Bruxie eluded to) that match officials should review any contentious moments they may have thought they saw, or missed during the game. If this were done it would preserve the integrity of the match officials, and allow them to review any incidents they may not have clearly seen during the game, giving the officials the opportunity to alter their match reports, and instruct where necessary whether any further action should be taken.
        It seems to me whichever governing body is responsible, be it FIFA, UEFA or the FA, none of them appear to have the stomach to do what’s right for the game.

        • Shelfy 21/01/2019 at 4:48 pm

          I fully agree that yellows should be looked at after the game and reminded if given wrongly.
          What I don’t want is for every foul to be looked at by VAR.
          I am happy to be angry at bad decisions that go against my team and accept that as long as the officials are not showing bias its ok

          • Shelfy 21/01/2019 at 4:49 pm

            *rescinded not reminded

            • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 5:19 pm

              Remind the ref to rescind

          • Caspurs 21/01/2019 at 4:54 pm

            I agree, which is why a review of contentious issues using camera footage should be done after the game i.e. retrospective action.

  • Ronwol196061 21/01/2019 at 4:29 pm

    2 great NFL finals games yesterday if any of you are interested

    • Shelfy 21/01/2019 at 4:33 pm

      They were. I am a little biased as when I first moved Stateside it was to Boston where the citizens are crazy about their sports teams.
      The Patriots have been a model of consistency and to get to 5 of the last 6 super bowls is an amazing achievement. Hopefully one day our Spurs will dominate in the same way.
      Even so in those games there were big slices of luck for the winners.
      The blown call in the first game and the correct call for defensive offside resulting in the interception being overturned near the end of the second game. Fine margins as they say.

      • Ronwol196061 21/01/2019 at 6:11 pm

        I loved Minnesota because their purple shirts looked more Navy of my TV when I came over. I think they had a Gillium which sounded like Gilzean and a Smith and a Jones but Buffalo was my local team which I liked. Went to see OJ Simpson a few times.. and talk about conviction!

      • Ronwol196061 21/01/2019 at 6:13 pm

        Boston always was competitive that scares me about Liverpool!

  • Shelfy 21/01/2019 at 4:44 pm

    NBCSN had an interview with Mark Clattenburg yesterday and he answered some viewers questions. He is not my favorite ref (or ex ref) by a long way but his comments were interesting.
    He said that the refs get together and review the footage of every instance of physical contact after the games and discuss the decisions.
    He also said that they get ‘suspensions’ ie miss matches if their performance is not good enough. Though the pundits were saying that they thought the refs should be explaining their decisions to the fans and not keeping the discussions private between themselves.
    He was asked what rules he would change to improve the game and I thought his answers were good
    First for time wasting at a set piece he would award the set piece to the opposition so if a keeper were wasting time at a goal kick he would award a corner (and vice versa) he would award a throw in to the opponents if the player was wasting time on the throw.
    He also wants divers retrospectively give a two match ban

    • Caspurs 21/01/2019 at 4:49 pm

      All of that boils down to what goes in the refs report, where they are not permitted to use post game footage. If they see the incident during play and it’s contained within the report, no retrospective action can be taken.

      • Shelfy 21/01/2019 at 4:51 pm

        you are correct about the refs report and the issues with it. However I did not know that all the refs get together and review all the decisions in all the games which he said was new. It used to be an assessor sat in the stands but that no longer happens.

        • Caspurs 21/01/2019 at 5:00 pm

          It’s not that new, all refs get together via the ‘PGMOL’ to see whether they can improve their performances, the difference is at the moment they cannot alter their report after a particular game, and make any recommendations for retrospective action. I believe this is something they should be able to do.

  • cavey 21/01/2019 at 4:54 pm

    There’s no doubt about it, but that kick boxing/ rugby tackle on Sanchez yesterday should have been a red card and the ref knew it.

  • McG ⚽⚽ 21/01/2019 at 5:10 pm

    If people are serious about throwing a cup game, I’d rather the league cup than FA. If we do win Thurs, we’re only gonna get our arses handed to us in the final by City anyways, no chance of winning that without Kane.

    • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 5:25 pm

      McDoom! We gave them a good game at Wembley and deserved something out of the game when we weren’t in the best form, in a one off game where we are the underdogs with a bit of luck (surely we are due some) we can beat them. Throw a semi final?
      Your having a McGiggle

      • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 5:42 pm

        Lose yet another semi final? We’d be seen as perennial chokers to do it deliberately.

        • McG ⚽⚽ 21/01/2019 at 6:23 pm

          I’m not saying we should throw it, but I’m reading comments above re throwing the Palace game, I certainly wouldn’t. & No Kane for the final v’s Citeh, cloud cookoo.

  • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 5:45 pm

    61 Spurs Nut 🌰
    Or for his subsequent shove on Sanchez (Rose?) later on as the ball went for a throw, which should have got him set off.

    If that referee was a detective he’d be arresting the corpses and charging them for their own murder.

  • McG ⚽⚽ 21/01/2019 at 6:18 pm

    Sorry, but this surely can’t be down to being a little rusty? I think my call about him not getting his move after Kane’s injury is closer to the mark.

    Llorente:

    40.9% pass accuracy
    3 forward passes completed
    2 attacking-third passes completed
    0 passes inside penalty area
    5 attempts at goal, with 0 goals
    2 big chances missed
    0 chances created
    0 take-ons completed
    0 ball recoveries
    0 tackles attempted
    1 own goal

    He better buck his ideas up for Thursday, & as for Poch being happy, really???!

    • cavey 21/01/2019 at 6:27 pm

      Yeah your right McG, you’d think yesterday he hadn’t trained with the first team before. I’d drop him and bring in young Stirling, even against ‘the racists’!!!!

    • Elyid 21/01/2019 at 6:35 pm

      Maybe he was happy because we scored two goals from virtually unopposed headers inside the six yard box. Why were they virtually unopposed? Because the central defenders were occupied physically restraining the big fella

    • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 21/01/2019 at 6:38 pm

      Nah can’t believe he’d throw his toys out of the pram because he can’t get a move. Anybody thinking of buying him seeing that display would quickly forget it. The guy’s professional, just had a very bad day at the office.

      • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 7:04 pm

        He looked overjoyed when Winks scored, for many reasons not the least being his own goal didn’t lose any points.

  • Northern Spur 21/01/2019 at 6:20 pm

    McG
    If people are serious about throwing a cup game, I’d rather the league cup than FA. If we do win Thurs, we’re only gonna get our arses handed to us in the final by City anyways, no chance of winning that without Kane.

    No throwing games! Never!! I can’t think of a greater betrayal of the fans.

    • McG ⚽⚽ 21/01/2019 at 6:23 pm

      Good man, me neither.

    • UnkleTaff 21/01/2019 at 6:58 pm

      If people are serious about throwing a cup game I’d rather they went and supported some other team, if you don’t mind.

      • cavey 21/01/2019 at 7:16 pm

        Well Unk, I’d throw both domestic cup games, look I’m getting my coat!

    • Sexy Beast 21/01/2019 at 6:59 pm

      We will put out a very scratch side against Palace imo which will struggle if Palace go strong, not throwing a game but if we lose it won’t look good.

      • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 7:02 pm

        By necessity is one thing, can’t be helped due to the exigencies thrust upon our stretched squad.

  • Elyid 21/01/2019 at 7:25 pm

    That is only natural, we wouldn’t be very happy if he celebrated the own goal

    • Elyid 21/01/2019 at 7:28 pm

      That was in reply to Chauv

      • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 7:35 pm

        The winner meant double bubble to Nando and it showed!

        • Elyid 21/01/2019 at 7:37 pm

          👍

  • Fatty B 21/01/2019 at 7:33 pm

    UnkleTaff
    If people are serious about throwing a cup game I’d rather they went and supported some other team, if you don’t mind.

    Agreed. And I don’t believe for a second that Poch is a thrower of games; games that could and very well might lead to the all important silverware. The suggestion beggars belief.

    • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 7:42 pm

      I’m sure Pochettino wouldn’t knowingly consider deliberately throwing a game. But who knows the influence of the subconcious on team selection and tactics in the intense cauldron of competition and the overriding importance of a top 4 finish?

      • Hartley 21/01/2019 at 7:57 pm

        Uri Geller ?

        • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 9:33 pm

          Derren Brown too.

        • merrance 21/01/2019 at 10:51 pm

          eileen drewery

      • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 21/01/2019 at 8:54 pm

        I’m sure he’s always said that he values top 4 over the facup or League Cup. But he then clarifies by saying that all his squad are more than capable of achieving a result and I think he got the ump when questioned otherwise previously.

      • Fatty B 21/01/2019 at 9:53 pm

        Blimey. Well there’s a Magical Mystery Tour inside a Countdown Conundrum wrapped up in an Enigma Machine. So Poch might ‘subconsciously’ throw the game? If we were to lose the game playing poorly, would we be entitled to criticise the team and management if we know it might have been a subconscious throwing?

  • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 7:34 pm

    https://www.dearmrlevy.com/dml/2019/1/20/football

    Spooky makes our January quandary plain… And why we are unlikely to reach the top.

    • Fatty B 21/01/2019 at 9:47 pm

      Loose lips sink ships. Defeatest talk is bad for morale.

      • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 10:48 pm

        Truth is the first casualty of soccer.

  • McG ⚽⚽ 21/01/2019 at 8:26 pm

    Poch mastering the language, funny:

    “It was very funny, a few years ago I was with Sean Dyche [the Burnley manager] on the touchline. Sean was on the touchline, [shouting] ‘f***ing this, f****ing that.’ In one moment I turned to him and I said: ‘F*** off, Sean. Hey, Sean, f*** off.”

    He confessed that he thought this was an appropriate way of asking Sean to ask Dyche to keep it down and when his assistant Jesus Perez told him that his intention wasn’t communicated clearly, he had to apologise to Dyche.

    He added, “I said ‘sorry Sean, I apologise’. I did not want to disrespect him — I thought I was saying ‘shut up’. If we say it, it does not have the same impact as an English person saying it, the same context.”

    • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 21/01/2019 at 8:31 pm

      Context is for kings.

  • Matt 21/01/2019 at 11:02 pm

    Is Kazaiah Sterling any good?

    • DAVID 21/01/2019 at 11:10 pm

      He’s the new Marcus Edwards!
      Don’t think his goal scoring record is great but perhaps Kane’s wasn’t either at that age ?
      We appear to be running out of options.

      • Matt 21/01/2019 at 11:13 pm

        Bugger

        • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 11:28 pm

          He’s pretty good actually. Poch had him training with the first team before Kane’s injury.

      • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 11:25 pm

        Marcus Edwards scored his first goal for Excelsior at the weekend.
        The Sissoko effect must be spreading out! A goal for Marcus and an assist for Kevin.

  • merrance 21/01/2019 at 11:09 pm

    no he is karzi

    • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 11:26 pm

      Scoring for fun against City and Liverpool U23s.

  • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 11:31 pm

    I’d still like Jarrod Bowen from Hull, but what with the stadium expense, Daniel’s had his pockets sewn up.
    I think the Black Death would have to strike Hotspur Way before any January signings get sanctioned.

  • Chauvelin 21/01/2019 at 11:37 pm

    Fatty B
    Loose lips sink ships. Defeatest talk is bad for morale.

    What’s this about deaf eaters and more ale?

  • AntSpurs 21/01/2019 at 11:50 pm

    Super piece WD2019, WD40 is so last year, your finest work a for sure! Slight frown from the off, into smiles, larfter and lots of nodding throughout zis masterpiece. Beaming from the first loss at home since Fergie and then you say you like to keep it positive …. effing brilliant. Anyways would love to stay and chat but I’m using a poor android device and its struggling to comprehend the finer details required for such a discussion but thank you and looking forward to us and Llorente finishing the job on Thursday . COYS….

  • merrance 22/01/2019 at 12:20 am

    Dele out for 1 month again

  • SeattleSpursGuy 22/01/2019 at 1:38 am

    Worse than I thought: Fernando Llorente vs. Fulham:
    40.9% pass accuracy
    3 forward passes completed
    2 attacking-third passes completed
    0 passes inside penalty-area
    5 attempts at goal
    1 big chance missed
    0 chances created
    0 take-ons completed
    0 ball recoveries
    0 tackles attempted
    1 own goal

  • SeattleSpursGuy 22/01/2019 at 1:40 am

    Wat? Is there’s another Barcelona FC somewhere?
    DONE DEAL: Barcelona have signed Kevin-Prince Boateng on an initial loan deal from Sassuolo with an €8m option to buy at the end of the season.

    • merrance 22/01/2019 at 2:31 am

      They are worried about meeting us in the final and want some one with some inside info on us.

  • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 22/01/2019 at 9:08 am
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