Trust your eyes.

 

Dele Alli is our best player so far this season. Our two wins may have been team efforts, squad efforts even, but Dele is the standout performer according to these lot:

https://twelve.football/analytics?analysisId=1cf82b4984754fd5a2e1c3f940e2a961&viewType=total

I’m afraid I’m still a bit too spaced out to be delving too far into these stats and exactly how they’re gathered, so perhaps some kind souls on here will have a look through and give an opinion as to whether they are really worth anything.

Unk was asking before whether there were any stat sites out there…after the OptaGate farce of yesteryear, I’m often more inclined to trust my eyes as to whether a player is contributing, and in what ways.

So what have yours been telling you? And do they tally with this lot of pseudo-science?

Author: Flat Oeuf

A blog dedicated to aficionados of the chicken badge of Tottenham Hotspur FC, unashamedly revelling in the agony and ecstasy of every moment of every game....no matter who finds themselves fortunate enough, in any given season, to be the stewards, manager or players of the best club in the world. COYFS!

Comments
  • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 22/08/2018 at 9:37 pm

    Come on you Bees!

  • Bruxie 22/08/2018 at 9:37 pm

    Night all. Another acca up the swannee.

  • stevo1987 22/08/2018 at 9:38 pm

    That’s better than ours according to some a**holes who know nothing.

    • stevo1987 22/08/2018 at 9:48 pm

      He said again. f@kin double posting tw@t… I’m off to beat myself senseless, as in physical violence.

      • Flat Oeuf 22/08/2018 at 10:08 pm

        That gave me a proper laugh out loud.

        • stevo1987 22/08/2018 at 10:09 pm

          Who you laughing at?.. Do you want some?!!

          • Flat Oeuf 22/08/2018 at 10:22 pm

            More laughter? Go on, then Steve-😡

            • stevo1987 22/08/2018 at 10:29 pm

              I’m cool. I have wine and the thought of next week off work. So that f’kin bitch in the supermarket car is a distant memory…

              • Flat Oeuf 22/08/2018 at 10:35 pm

                A car the size of a supermarket? Selfish cow.

                • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 22/08/2018 at 10:38 pm

                  How big is a supermarket?

                  • stevo1987 22/08/2018 at 11:07 pm

                    About the size of a car park.

      • Flat Oeuf 23/08/2018 at 8:32 am

        Use a whisk.

  • SeattleSpursGuy 22/08/2018 at 9:49 pm

    I quite enjoyed my visit to Brentford on my trip accross the pond a couple years ago. And Griffin Park is a pretty nifty old-school stadium. And a pub on each corner.

    • Sexy Beast 22/08/2018 at 10:13 pm

      I lived in a house that backed onto the ground for a couple of years, it was 30m from the Griffin pub, i used to cook sunday roast and nip home from the pub and check the spuds whilst getting sloshed. The dinner didn’t always turn out so well, one monday evening i found Yorkshire pudings in the oven that i’d forgotten!

      • stevo1987 22/08/2018 at 10:14 pm

        You forgot you had an oven?

        • Ronwol196061 22/08/2018 at 10:27 pm

          Looxury!!

  • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 22/08/2018 at 10:00 pm

    I used to live on Braemar Road, backing on to the stadium. Went to a few games back in the seventies.

    • SeattleSpursGuy 22/08/2018 at 10:00 pm

      Looks like Brentford are building a new stadium with a projected capacity of 17,250 on a 7.6 acre site off Lionel Road, adjacent to Kew Bridge railway station.

      Another older ground goes away.

      • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 22/08/2018 at 10:09 pm

        Multi-use stadium too. How dare they!

        • Chauvelin 22/08/2018 at 10:14 pm

          QPR and Brentford should ground share. Or is there too much rivalry?

    • SeattleSpursGuy 22/08/2018 at 10:03 pm

      Yeah, that was pretty cool to walk through a residential neighborhood and realize the ground was in the backyard.

      • Ronwol196061 22/08/2018 at 10:27 pm

        Upton park was like that

    • Sexy Beast 22/08/2018 at 10:15 pm

      Were you stalking me? lol

      • SeattleSpursGuy 22/08/2018 at 10:24 pm

        Not this time, no.

        • Sexy Beast 22/08/2018 at 10:36 pm

          Lol that was for the Nuster!

          • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 22/08/2018 at 10:37 pm

            Nuster? Never ‘eard of ‘im. Sounds like a right perv.

  • Chauvelin 22/08/2018 at 10:30 pm

    Anyone got any idea of when South Korea play Iran?

    • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 22/08/2018 at 10:33 pm

      Tomorrow at 19:30 UTC+7 (whatever that is)

      • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 22/08/2018 at 10:35 pm

        It seems that would be 12:30 BST.

        • Chauvelin 22/08/2018 at 11:00 pm

          Cheers.

          • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 22/08/2018 at 11:12 pm

            Or 13.30 BST as they don’t use DSH in Malaysia.

    • stevo1987 22/08/2018 at 10:36 pm

      Who gives a sh*t? Whoo…steady on soldier…and relax….

      • Chauvelin 22/08/2018 at 11:01 pm

        It’s interesting to me, hence my query.

    • SeattleSpursGuy 22/08/2018 at 10:38 pm

      1.30 pm UK time

  • Ronwol196061 22/08/2018 at 10:43 pm

    Anyone think Lamela can play the Dembele role?

    • Sexy Beast 22/08/2018 at 10:59 pm

      You been drinking Snowballs Ronnie? lol

    • stevo1987 22/08/2018 at 11:10 pm

      An interesting concept. Maybe. I like your thinking. He would have to show a lot more discipline, though it could be the making of him.

  • Caspurs 22/08/2018 at 10:44 pm

    So who the bloody hell else has lived in Brentford, I thought I was alone…

    • Sexy Beast 22/08/2018 at 11:00 pm

      You enall??

      • Caspurs 22/08/2018 at 11:06 pm

        Yup.

        • Sexy Beast 22/08/2018 at 11:10 pm

          If we draw Brenford in the League Cup………a reunion would surely be apt? Be a bit odd as we didn’t know each other but we are all Loozerzzzz hahaha

    • Sexy Beast 22/08/2018 at 11:00 pm

      Well it is the centre of the er er Brentford Universe!

    • Chauvelin 22/08/2018 at 11:03 pm

      My son was living in Little Ealing until last summer, which appeared to be a posh name for North Brentford. Stayed up there a few times. Good eateries round there.

      • Chauvelin 22/08/2018 at 11:10 pm

        Right opposite the north end of Windmill Road.

        This might not be of interest to our American friends, but John Quincy Adams lived in the area for 2 years.

        • Sexy Beast 22/08/2018 at 11:13 pm

          Ron, did you ever meet this Adams chap? Lol

      • Chauvelin 22/08/2018 at 11:14 pm

        Bloody useful for parking the car round there just off the M4 and getting up to Wembley though.

  • stevo1987 22/08/2018 at 11:59 pm

    I have never lived in Brentford or any part of London I’m pleased to say.

  • UnkleTaff 22/08/2018 at 11:59 pm

    Syd

    I’m a bit of a bike enthusiast myself Unkle. Can you send me photographs you should have my email through all the other emails that have been sent around if not let me know

    Before:

    • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 12:00 am

      …and after:

      • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 12:03 am

        • Hartley 23/08/2018 at 12:11 am

          That’s a beauty Unk, What year is it?

          • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 12:15 am

            1979. So it’s currently road-tax exempt and as of next year will be MOT exempt as well.

            Insurance is only £85 a year so it costs bobbins to run.

            If only I had some lovely Welsh mountain roads to try it out on…

            • Hartley 23/08/2018 at 12:21 am

              Enjoy!

      • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 8:30 am

        Are you sure that’s the same bike!

        Is it like Trigger’s broom?

    • stevo1987 23/08/2018 at 12:01 am

      What;s that a yamaha fs1e aka fizzy?

      • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 12:04 am

        Close enough.

        • stevo1987 23/08/2018 at 12:07 am

          Sounds a lot of money to do up an old bike. Will you get your money back if sold?

          • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 12:10 am

            Nope. Which would be an issue if I intended to sell it. But I don’t. So it isn’t.

      • stevo1987 23/08/2018 at 12:04 am

        oh Honda ap 50?

  • Sniper 23/08/2018 at 1:28 am

    Caspurs
    So who the bloody hell else has lived in Brentford, I thought I was alone…

    I lived in Ashford and worked in Hounslow, if that helps!
    Knew Brentford quite well. Griffin Park was where I first went to a game as a young teenager without my old man. I failed a trial with Brentford!

  • Fat Bertha 23/08/2018 at 5:19 am

    I actually played for Brentford and should’ve started my pro career there as a YTS apprentice. I played at Griffin Park under a certain S Perryman’s eye.

    • McG ⚽⚽ 23/08/2018 at 8:03 am

      Played what, tiddley winks?!

  • McG ⚽⚽ 23/08/2018 at 8:04 am

    Ronwol196061
    Anyone think Lamela can play the Dembele role?

    I quite liked this suggested side, can’t see it happening tho…

    • Flat Oeuf 23/08/2018 at 8:31 am

      Interestingly, I think we have options in Mousa’s role: Erikse, Dele and yes, Lamela too. A bit like a 9yo’s side, we have too many players who think they are Strikers (AMs in our case). Someone like Lamela might not get loads of game time as an AM if Eriksen and Alli are starters and he’s vying with Son and Moura for the 3rd spot…so why not play further back?

      Drawbacks? Coco has had a propensity to run into trouble and lose the ball and he’s not scared of giving a foul away, sometimes near the penalty area.

      • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 8:33 am

        That’s a big drawback. He’d be targeted to give away free kicks just outside the area too. Enthusiastic yes, but can he be coached to tackle cleanly?

        • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 8:38 am

          Anyhow, I thought this was Wink’s role? I’m sure there will be enough matches and enough players needing a break to give Lamela plenty of game time. It look like an overcrowded AM roster today, but that won’t always be the case deep into the season playing those away matches at Rochdale…

          • Flat Oeuf 23/08/2018 at 8:43 am

            Ah yes, Winks. He will have to show he’s fully recovered to be trusted with such an important role. People always point to how good he was vs RM, but after his ankle injury he looked very fragile and became so conservative with his passing that he offered very little, from what I saw. I accept he may have still been carrying the injury.

            • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 8:48 am

              If Winks turns out to be another shadow of his former self, it would be a tragedy for him, and lighting striking twice for Spurs after the long Ryan Mason layoff and exit. Mason was really progressing and then he scored that goal against Sunderland but simultaneously incurring the career wrecking injury. Never the same again.

              • Caspurs 23/08/2018 at 8:52 am

                Lamela will be our player of the season, playing as an AM. It’s destiny..

                • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 9:20 am

                  That’s the attitude!

      • Syd 23/08/2018 at 9:49 am

        Just like mousa

  • McG ⚽⚽ 23/08/2018 at 8:07 am

    Going forward, it might be nice to include a weekly match report with player ratings if anyone can be bothered??!

    • Flat Oeuf 23/08/2018 at 8:25 am

      Thanks! You’ve got the job. Seriously though, we have always encouraged regular contributions from everyone here. It just needs to be co-ordinated to avoid a Clusterfack.

      Personally, I’ve never done Player Ratings, like some people don’t do formations (I do), so if anyone feels minded to do a match report, please go ahead….just flag it up on here a few times in advance so everyone knows and peoples’ time isn’t wasted.

      Fanks.

      • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 9:48 am

        Player ratings, schmlayer ratings. Formations, schmormations.

        Pfft to the pair of ’em I say.

        • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 10:00 am

          Match report, schmatch report.

        • Fatty B 23/08/2018 at 10:07 am

          Pair of ’em schmair of’ em.

    • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 8:29 am

  • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 8:43 am

    After Trippier’s great free kick goal, at least there is competition for Eriksen from him as well as from Kane. We’ve been pretty wasteful from dead balls since Eriksen became a specialist at hitting woodwork and first defenders’ and he could be a major weapon this season. Question is, what happens to Aurier?

    • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 23/08/2018 at 8:46 am

      • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 23/08/2018 at 8:57 am

        He’s got some decisions to make, Navels, Seville, Jaffa? Personally I’d go for the bloods.

    • Sexy Beast 23/08/2018 at 9:11 am

      Chauvelin
      After Trippier’s great free kick goal, at least there is competition for Eriksen from him as well as from Kane. We’ve been pretty wasteful from dead balls since Eriksen became a specialist at hitting woodwork and first defenders’ and he could be a major weapon this season. Question is, what happens to Aurier?

      Carabooboo cup squad!
      At best or loan him to Villa…

      • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 10:03 am

        Yeah, right … they’re really going to let us have Grealish after we’ve done that to them.

        • Sexy Beast 23/08/2018 at 10:16 am

          Oh shit, I didn’t think of that!
          Ok scrub that idea 👍

  • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 9:36 am

    McG

    Going forward, it might be nice to include a weekly match report with player ratings if anyone can be bothered??!

    What if we have a midweek game? Or an international break? You haven’t thought this through.

  • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 9:46 am

    Chauvelin

    Are you sure that’s the same bike!

    Is it like Trigger’s broom?

    Wheel rims and spokes are new, as are the tyres (obviously) and seat and foot rests and a few other bits and bobs, but for the most part it’s still as it was … just overhauled.

    It was a kit bike to start with anyway (anyone who knows anything about the CB550 will tell you that the tank isn’t genuine) so I wasn’t too precious about retaining the original features. In fact, with the benefit of hindsight I’d’ve happily junked the carburettors and replaced them with a modern set that worked properly as the existing ones have given me a bit of grief so far. Hopefully they’ll settle down a bit once it’s been fully run in.

    • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 9:48 am

      Does it have a CD player, or cassette?

      • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 9:49 am

        No, but it does have an eight-track cartridge.

        • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 9:50 am

          ;-D

      • Sexy Beast 23/08/2018 at 10:21 am

        Ashtray?

        • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 10:23 am

          Adjustable lumbar support?

    • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 9:49 am

      Enjoy!

  • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 10:25 am

    Okay, so I’m now three episodes into The Newsroom and I’m prepared to say it ranks as highly as any TV drama I’ve ever seen. Ever. The acting is first rate (Jeff Daniels, in particular, is excellent) but the quality of writing is simply sensational.

    I cannot recommend this series highly enough.

    • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 23/08/2018 at 10:36 am

      Thanks Taff, bookmarked.

    • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 10:42 am

      I agree Taff.
      Also Jeff Daniels was fantastic in the Looming Tower and also the cowboy miniseries Unforgiven? Unforgotten?..one of those

      • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 10:49 am

        Unfortunate?

      • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 10:50 am

        Godless … if imdb is anything to go by.

        • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 11:12 am

          Thats the one

        • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 11:14 am

          Its Serge Leone speed but quality
          In The Looking Tower he was Newsroom level. In Godless he was great too but more understated

          • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 11:15 am

            Sorry, are you insinuating that Sergio Leone *wasn’t* quality?

            • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 11:17 am

              No but just the speed.Godless has that same vibe

              • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 11:18 am

                Phew. You had me going there for a minute. I was about to ask you to step outside…

                Looks like I’ll have to give this a look then as I absolutely adore Leone.

            • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 11:19 am

              I guess I did say that. Maybe I didnt think it was great quality just good directing. Anyway back then I wasnt into t the slowness of that kind of film

              • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 11:28 am

                Once Upon a Time in the West is, as far as I’m concerned, the best film I’ve ever seen. And I’ve seen a few. It’s absolutely flawless.

                That opening scene. Twelve minutes of three men just waiting for a train. Incredible.

                And Morricone was never better.

                Cinematic perfection.

                • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 11:34 am

                  Was that Henry Fonda playing against type as a cold blooded killer?

                • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 11:38 am

                  We certainly have different taste,while I appreciated the quality of the film it really wasnt my type of film.
                  For me The Godfather Part II was the greatest film ever,followed by The Godfather (I)
                  I liked Raging Bull as well and a host of other films.
                  I thought Godless was really good by the way.I wouldnt have enjoyed that style it in the 60’s.

                  • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 11:42 am

                    Neither of the Godfather films can hold a candle to the epic that is Once Upon a Time in America as far as I’m concerned.

                    But as you say, we clearly have different tastes.

                    • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 11:45 am

                      The difference in my language to yours is that you always talk absolutely and I talk relatively,but we are no less strong with our ideas

                    • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 11:50 am

                      I’d be interested to hear if others agree with your assessment of me as I think it’s rather a crude (and inaccurate) generalisation.

                      I’m prone to hyperbole at times but to label all my contributions as such is disingenuous as far as I’m concerned.

                    • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 11:56 am

                      Ok I did go over the top with that remark,I apologize. You did say it was your opinion.

                    • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 11:58 am

                      No worries. Cheers.

                    • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 12:00 pm

                      Thanks!

                    • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 12:03 pm

                      Certainly it was the apex of the Leone canon with a top cast, even though I liked van Cleef and Eastwood, this was a better all round ensemble of actors.

                    • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 12:04 pm

                      …but seriously, have a look at that YouTube clip I posted above. It’s only a couple of minutes long and it ranks very near the top of my list of favourite film scenes of all time.

                    • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 12:20 pm

                      I have, twice! And the 8 minute standoff/gunfight between Henry and Charles came up after.

    • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 23/08/2018 at 10:47 am

      Nearly finished second season of Goliath. Not quite as good as the first but still excellent. Theres some weird voyeuristic sex going on involving limbless peeps but don’t let that put you off.

      • Fatty B 23/08/2018 at 10:48 am

        That’s right up FW2’s alley way.

  • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 10:26 am

    UnkleTaff

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    • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 10:30 am

      Hard to believe that woman thinks/thought she looked like a duck…

      • Fatty B 23/08/2018 at 10:32 am

        Quackers.

      • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 10:52 am

        What? Looked like a duck?

        Are you sure she wasn’t misquoted?

        • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 10:53 am

          Not Donald again! Politics!!!!!

          • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 10:54 am

            Being so old, I still hold a candle for Rosanna Arquette.

            • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 11:03 am

              I preferred Patricia.

              • Flat Oeuf 23/08/2018 at 1:50 pm

                👍

        • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 11:04 am

          “You know, I look like a duck. I just do. And I’m not the only person who thinks that. It’s the way my mouth sort of curls up or my nose tilts up. I should have played Howard the Duck.”
          People Magazine, 1990

          • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 11:16 am

            I liked that duck!

          • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 11:25 am

            How quare.

            • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 11:26 am

              Delete .

              • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 11:31 am

                Ta.

  • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 10:52 am

    I like the conversation about who can play in the Dembele role. Yes a lot can but both protecting the ball and also creating is really important as said in such a position. Its all according the level of confidence (Eriksen) and Focus (Dele and Lamela) and Drive (Moura and Winks) these layers had. To me its the most important position on the field.Its pivotal.
    Its hard to find a player with everything. Its possible Grealish could have played that spot.He does have great control and desire and probably protects the ball too. But its a very responsible position.

    • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 11:29 am

      I don’t think Dembele is leaving this summer, so it’s not such an issue as we thought a month ago. By next summer I think we’ll be clearer as to if we’ve already got someone to take over as principal CM or if we need fresh blood.

      • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 11:43 am

        In this last game Eriksen was playing deeper.I thought he did really well. While Dembele gives us more stability. A more creative player in the role would give us more flow. Its difficult to get a player who can give both but thats what we really need

        • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 11:59 am

          And next summer will be the big one that some fans hoped this would be. New stadium fully open, Levy will have carried out stable refinancing of the total cost of the project, sponsorships in place. And silverware won, in my opinion…
          At that point, we will be mature and confident and a couple of big marquee signings to make us the team to stop, if the others can.

          • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 12:14 pm

            I agree

  • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 11:26 am

    Kane didn’t make UEFA’s shortlist of 10 for player of the year. Eden Hazard did.
    It makes perfect sense, Eden’s record for the 17/18 season was 15 goals and 7 assists in the PL/CL combined.
    Kane chipped in with a measly 37 goals and 4 assists.
    Both captained their countries to World Cup semi finals, Kane winning the Golden Boot.

    • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 11:31 am

      It’s politics. EUFA, pffft. FIFA, double pffft.

      • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 11:35 am

        I thought it might be a hair thing.

        • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 11:39 am

          Kane is being snubbed by refusing to join a favoured club. If he had that season at RM or United or Bayern there’s no doubt he’d be feted by EUFA.

        • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 23/08/2018 at 12:15 pm

          according to our former site its hair today and gone tommorow

          • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 12:21 pm

            Wrong tattoos are to blame.

            • Fatty B 23/08/2018 at 2:21 pm

              Which tattoos are right?

  • Sexy Beast 23/08/2018 at 12:15 pm

    Chauvelin
    It’s politics. EUFA, pffft. FIFA, double pffft.

    Bales goal never made the shortlist for goal of the season?
    Biased wankers

    • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 12:23 pm

      What, the CL final winning overhead spectacular? Bunch of twats. Clearly Bale needs to adopt Portuguese nationality.

      • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 12:50 pm

        …or play for a ‘favoured club’.

        😉

        • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 1:03 pm

          All those wasted years Bale played for Spurs counts against the poor lad…

  • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 1:10 pm

    Today’s theme in the comments section over the road: apparently it took several flushes to purify his blog of the usual suspects.

    If there’s nothing new to discuss about the sky falling down upon Chicken Licken’s head, it default’s to pouring scorn on fans who refuse to wet their beds.

    • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 1:12 pm

      *defaults? Default’s? Not sure on this one.

      • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 23/08/2018 at 1:42 pm

        No apostrophe, not possessive.

        • Flat Oeuf 23/08/2018 at 1:43 pm

          It’s Chauvelin’s, not yours. The apostrophe.

        • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 3:08 pm

          On consideration, I think I ought to have put ‘its default is to…’ so my problem with pluralisation was I attempted to put it on the wrong word in the phrase.

          Who’d have thunk it?

    • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 1:15 pm

      I’ve not been over there for a while now, but if it was his intention to do away with educational debate and simply gather together a crowd who’ll willingly lap up his every offering without questioning it then he’s succeeded.

      Last time I looked there wasn’t even the vaguest semblance of any humour on offer either.

      • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 1:21 pm

        Nope, it’s barefaced insults, banter, and from some highly questionable authors.

        However, there has been a very decent post just put up from what appears to be a very sad Arsenal fan warning of the perils of US ownership. It’s an analysis of Kroenke’s operating method and worth reading. I could cut and paste it here?

        • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 1:24 pm

          Funny thing is, T** **Y liked it. He has no sense of the irony that in his own way Levy is at least trying to improve Spurs, albeit it has taken nearly two decades to get us here.

          • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 1:37 pm

            …or we’ve completely misjudged him and he actually welcomes the debate … just not from us.

            • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 3:02 pm

              Here it is for your delectation, as Leonard Sachs used to say.

              Rhys Jaggar August 23, 2018 at 1:02 pm

              You might to enunciate the evidence for supposing a takeover will create a better ownership. The evidence down the road is extremely scant.

              1) Kroenke has put not one single penny of his own money into the club outside shares.
              2) Kroenke sought to pay himself £3m in consultancy fees without enunciating what consultancy was performed. Sharp practice in a listed company.
              3) Kroenke owns many unsuccessful US sports franchises, benefitting from cartel capitalism.
              4) Trust fund baby Josh wants a plaything and may finally get his Christmas present if Ivan Gazidis goes to AC Milan.
              5) 9 years after taking control, two years after surrendering Champions Aleague footbal, Kroenke buys out Usmanv, using a £550m bridging loan from Deutsche Bank.
              6) Kroenke is about to run Arsenal from Delaware, the US byword for lack of accountability, transparency etc.
              7) Nothing can stop Kroenke now saddling Arsenal FC with his purchase debt, just like Glazers at MUFC. A multibillionaire refusing to pay his mortgage….fans paying the stadium mortgage is fine, fans paying Kroenke’s is legalised robbery.
              8) Kroenke, being entirely ignorant about football, let Arsene Wenger run the club progressively into the ground. When Gazidis stood up, Wenger went straight to the owner to get a new contract summer 2017. Idiot dumbass Kroenke gave it to him. It did not end well….
              9) Kroenke hated AGMs, as knowledgeable fan shareholders lambasted him and his placemen. When he told one AGM ‘I could have had anyone, but I chose Arsenal’, most fans metaphorically threw up. His cognitive dissonance was unbelievable….
              10) Kroenke sanctioned a cash mountain of £220m building up during an era of higher player purchase price + salary inflation. A professor of any form of economics other than the junk variety he was/is not….£30m a year the cash pile increased for five years, then stayed steady for two more.
              11) During the past 9 years, no players have developed well, many have left to develop better elsewhere. Kroenke knows nothing about player development….

              So dream on about your dream American owners, dream of them purchasing you with an LBO. And saddling you with debt that they will get you to pay off.

              If you have a brain, do a JV with commercialisation partners: low overheads for partner, just a commercialisation team. Spurs get benefit of increased revenues, ownership remains outside US hands.

              Of course, if US mafia families have ordained EPL fixed unless clubs sell to Americans, EPL is dead. Cartels rig sporting outcome to create narratives….

              Just saying……

              • Hartley 23/08/2018 at 3:26 pm

                This Kroenke fella deserves a fucking knighthood!

                • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 3:31 pm

                  Agree, he’s doing a great job.

                  • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 3:33 pm

                    Makes Lewis and Levy look like Santa’s little helpers.

              • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 3:34 pm

                This fella likes a good enunciation.

                • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 3:37 pm

                  I thought only the angel Gabriel did that enunciating?

                  • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 3:38 pm

                    Enuncianymore.

                  • Fat Bertha 23/08/2018 at 3:44 pm

                    Archbishop Robert Renuncey did as well.

    • Fat Bertha 23/08/2018 at 1:40 pm

      I haven’t been there for a while but he’s sort of right. First, a lot of us left, then some of us made GDPR ‘right to be forgotten’ requests to him which led to him totally ‘purging’ 10/12 years worth of comments from his blog.
      You could call it a ‘purifying’ but whatever it was it was one that was forced on him.

  • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 3:30 pm

    South Korea win 2-0 over Iran, so Son won’t be back just yet.

    • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 3:31 pm

      He tried a cheeky shot from 40 yards but the goalie was awake.

    • OTS84 23/08/2018 at 3:38 pm

      Good result. They had a poor record against Iran. I would normally want our players knocked out and home early but in Son’s case I hope he gets a gold medal and military service exemption

      • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 3:43 pm

        They’re up against Uzbekistan in the quarters. They just k.o.’d Hong Kong 3-0. If they get past them I think the semi final opponents will be easier, Syria or Vietnam.

        • OTS84 23/08/2018 at 3:44 pm

          World powers of football…… or not.

          • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 3:46 pm

            The match I watched was Championship level stuff.

            • OTS84 23/08/2018 at 3:47 pm

              As good as that? I’m surprised!

              • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 3:49 pm

                Possibly I’m generous. It certainly was end to end cup stuff. No bus parking.

        • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 3:45 pm

          The other half of the draw has the bigger teams, China, Japan, Malaysia, and North Korea! Now that would be some final.

        • OTS84 23/08/2018 at 3:45 pm

          Do you know who the favorites are?

          • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 3:48 pm

            No idea. Not my bag.

            • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 4:02 pm

              The hosts are Indonesia, they’re in the draw so that might make them favourites.

  • Fat Bertha 23/08/2018 at 3:47 pm

    (Wee Jimmi) Kroenke In!

    • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 3:50 pm

      He’s deffo on my Christmas card list.

  • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 4:03 pm

    Looks like Carter-Vickers is off to Swansea on loan.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45275957

    Should be able to get a few games there, I’d’ve thought.

    • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 4:07 pm

      …any such move would presumably be contingent on Alderweireld not being sold over the course of the next seven days or so.

      • HD 🇺🇸 23/08/2018 at 4:09 pm

        this ^

      • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 4:10 pm

        Foyth is injured so we’re not too flush for cover. I wouldn’t be too pleased to see Davies needing to partner Dier for instance.

    • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 4:08 pm

      Last season’s defence was sold off. In which case CCV will get plenty of game time.

  • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 4:40 pm

    Winks spoke exclusively to the club’s official website about the pride he feels at being named as Tottenham’s new number eight, whilst admitting that he personally requested the change:

    “It’s something I’ve always dreamed of since I was a little boy, to have the number eight at Tottenham. It really is special. There have been so many great names and great players who have played in that shirt over the years and when you’re a young fan and aspiring Tottenham player, number eight, as a midfielder, is just the pinnacle so to get the number is an honour and I’ve got to work hard to do it justice. I asked the club if I could have it. I don’t really know how it all happened if I’m being honest – the club just sorted it for me and I was just told one day that I was going to have it, so it was all a bit of a whirlwind when I found out. I’m very grateful and I’m looking forward to knuckling down and working hard now.”

    Another one of our own.

    • SeattleSpursGuy 23/08/2018 at 4:45 pm

      Wasn’t Mason our last #8?

      • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 4:50 pm

        Yerp. Harry’s joining a list that contains quite a mix:

        Ryan Mason (15/16 – 16/17), Paulinho (13/14 – 14/15), Scott Parker (11/12 – 12/13), Jermaine Jenas (06/07 – 11/12), Danny Murphy (05/06), Pedro Mendes (04/05 – 05/06), Hélder Postiga (03/04), Tim Sherwood (99/00 – 01/02), Moussa Saïb (98/99), Allan Nielsen (96/97 – 97/98), Ilie Dumitrescu (94/95 – 95/96), Gordon Durie (91/92 – 93/94), Kevin Scott (93/94), Nayim (89/90 – 91/92), Paul Walsh (91/92), Paul Gascoigne (88/89 – 90/91), David Howells (88/89), Mark Falco (84/85 – 86/87), Paul Allen (86/87), Steve Archibald (82/83 – 83/84), Chris Jones (79/80), Steve Perryman (74/75),

        • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 4:52 pm

          It all went a bit wobbly after Nayim.

          • SeattleSpursGuy 23/08/2018 at 5:12 pm

            Just a bit.

            • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 5:15 pm

              J**** the longest holder of said shirt in recent history. Gulp.

        • Ronwol196061 23/08/2018 at 5:20 pm

          The great John White and maybe even Tommy Harmer

          • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 5:21 pm

            Wasn’t Greaves no 8?

            • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 5:40 pm

            • Ronwol196061 23/08/2018 at 9:26 pm

              They were numbered in those years according to their position

              • Ronwol196061 23/08/2018 at 9:32 pm

                John White was number 8 inside forward in 1960-61
                Greaves came to next year and he maybe had the 8 I think White was playing the position then
                Maybe Greaves was the 10

        • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 6:05 pm

          I thought Dumitrescu was a hell of signing that sadly didn’t quite work out … and Saib looked a real prospect at first.

          But then, I’ve always been a good judge of a player.

          • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 6:12 pm

            And Popescu wasn’t it? An attempt to do another Ardiles/Villa double swoop. I thought it was bold ‘to dare is to do’ stuff.

            • UnkleTaff 23/08/2018 at 6:13 pm

              Now Popescu *was* a hell of a player. I was gutted he only stayed with us for a year.

  • SeattleSpursGuy 23/08/2018 at 5:00 pm

    WTF is with this drawing of Poch? Are they picturing him at a pie eating contest?

    • foeorfreund 23/08/2018 at 5:18 pm

      I find the band of red seating around the pitch a tad more concerning.

      • Ronwol196061 23/08/2018 at 5:21 pm

        The red means nothing to me now 🙂

      • Chauvelin 23/08/2018 at 6:18 pm

        This is an alternate reality where Pochettino is managing Cheltenham Town.

        • Ronwol196061 23/08/2018 at 8:19 pm

          It can’t be far from a Cheltenham Gold Pot

  • stevo1987 23/08/2018 at 9:14 pm

    Good evening gents…..Apologies for my foul mood yesterday. Hopefully, I’m back to my usual miserable persona today.

    • Flat Oeuf 23/08/2018 at 9:16 pm

      Outside yer bastard.

      • stevo1987 23/08/2018 at 9:26 pm

        “You’re gonna get you f’kin head kicked in”!! All these tunes and more. Footy songs from the the 1970’s on KTEL records.

    • Ronwol196061 23/08/2018 at 9:25 pm

      Stevo it was not a red it was just a yellow

      • stevo1987 23/08/2018 at 9:27 pm

        Is that 5 minutes on the naughty step?

        • Ronwol196061 23/08/2018 at 9:34 pm

          Yet that will be 5 quid

  • stevo1987 23/08/2018 at 9:30 pm

    Meanwhile over on the new blog…..

    • McG ⚽⚽ 23/08/2018 at 10:53 pm

      Everyone’s hating..

  • Birdy Num Num 23/08/2018 at 10:56 pm

    Evening everyone,

    Just stumbled across this super blog and notice a few familiar names from you know where.

    So what happened?

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