The Hope’s Just Barely…

It’s not alright, it’s not okay, you might want to look the other way, you shouldn’t try to understand, Tottenham Hotspur’s effect on man….

When Gerry Francis resigned as Spurs Manager in November 1997, one of his coaching staff was reported to have said ‘at least we won’t have to listen to that song anymore’ with that song being ‘we want our Tottenham back’, a chant which had begun to roll down off the terraces with increasing volume and venom as the low-scoring non-event matches stacked up.

Considering Francis’s biggest ‘what if’ game at Spurs was probably the 1995 FA Cup semi-final when Joe Royle’s Everton somehow did us 4-1 at Elland Road, I couldn’t help but think of our old manager at full-time on Wednesday and wonder if he was staring bleary eyed at the scenes on his TV screen and ruefully singing that song to himself, because this was classic Tottenham after all, cruising at 0-1, somehow 3-1 down, back in it bang on half-time, 3-3, 4-4, and still we find a spare foot to shoot ourselves in.

Same as I imagine any other Spurs fan feels, I hate Spurs losing, and especially so when it means getting dumped out of a cup, but while the hatred of losing is never lessened by the performance, the loathing I often feel for the team, management and club after defeats like the ones we’ve recently suffered against Liverpool, Brighton and Chelsea often is.

If we had to lose, I’d always choose to lose the way we did against Everton, where it always felt as if we had the goals in us to pull something out of the hat and the quality of our attacking play – especially Kane’s equaliser from Son’s cross – got me out of my seat for the first time in far too long as far as watching Spurs is concerned.

Even against Arsenal, I’d rate the 4-5 reverse we suffered against them in November 2004 as the least painful derby defeat I’ve ever been to.

And, sadly, I’ve been to a few.

A certain Portuguese obviously had something to say about that particular loss to Arsenal way back in his first season as a Premier League manager, calling it a hockey score, disgraceful, and saying that in a three-against-three training session he would send the players back to the dressing room for not defending properly if they allowed nine goals to fly in.

I wonder if Wenger and Jol were texting each other as Winks allowed himself to be so easily dispossessed and seven of Mourinho’s Spurs players stood statuesque across the six seconds it took Bernard to play this ball into Sigurdsson in the first screen shot and pick up the return to score Everton’s fifth in the second. Honestly, looking at the two shots, it’s almost as if he’s used a secret tunnel to pop up behind them all without a single one noticing, though all of them have turned around to watch him jog by.

Mourinho was slightly more reticent in giving his views on this particular 5-4 Tottenham reverse, avoiding the issue by saying he doesn’t feel comfortable to be speaking about it.

The problem is, with Dier already benched for the penalty he gave away against Chelsea, Rodon benched for not being Milan Skriniar, Aurier benched for being Aurier, Tanganga benched for who knows what reason, Reguilon injured and Doherty, Alderweireld, Sanchez, Davies and possibly Hojbjerg all now requiring benching as punishment for crimes against trophy ambitions, who the hell does Mourinho have left to send out against City tonight?

Personally, I’d stick as close as possible to the eleven which beat City back in match-week 9, which would mean a back-four of Aurier, Alderweireld, Dier, and probably Davies in place of Reguilon, though maybe Mourinho is so shell-shocked from seeing a defence he put together concede five for what I think is the first ever time in his career, we’ll see a repeat of the Brighton experiment, with a mish-mash of whichever three centre-backs he’s least furious with, Doherty and Sissoko as wing-backs, and Kane replacing Hugo in goal.

That match-week 9 fixture against City was the last time our hosts today lost, and they’ve been in frightening form ever since, unbeaten with twelve wins and two draws, scoring five twice, four twice, and only failing to score once. The swing between us and them since that game has been twenty-two points and they’ve gone from thirteenth and the humiliation of being a place below Arsenal to five points clear at the top of the league with a game in hand on any club with an outside hope of overhauling them.

I saw most of their game against Liverpool last week and even before Alisson channeled his inner Karius to gift them their second and third goals, they looked so much better than the champions.

Though, to be fair, unless you’re us or West Ham, that doesn’t look all that difficult to do right now.

But we’ve faced City twice while Mourinho’s been with us and pretty much had their number both times.

They also seem to be one of the few teams playing professional football at the moment who we can sometimes be consistently (p)lucky against, the equivalent fixture last season – which took place way back in August 2019 when some of us believed we were about to embark on a title challenge and Pochettino would be with us for life – being a prime case in point. We scored with our only two shots on target, only managed three shots overall, allowed City to take a whopping thirty, yet still came away with a point.

That sort of performance is my main hope for something today, and while my expectations that we can go there and get a win or a draw with the way we’ve been playing and the way they’ve been playing are pretty low right now, the hope’s just about staying alive and has gone from virtually zero when I started typing this to pretty much blind optimism right now: Kane and Son and Ndombele with a brace apiece for the most hockeyriffic 5-6 result ever witnessed and the title winning run starts here.

Wibble.

Come on you Spurs!

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61 Spurs Njut 🌰
Admin
7 months ago

Come on guys. We need more players in the Nutty Ropes Superbru!

Last edited 7 months ago by 61 Spurs Nunut
MiT
MiT
7 months ago

In. Will try to get Steve O in, sent him the info.

I do not know Jack about very many of these teams at all.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
7 months ago

Ivan Toney!

61 Spurs Njut 🌰
Admin
7 months ago

He da man!

61 Spurs Njut 🌰
Admin
7 months ago

It’s about time they scored first!

61 Spurs Njut 🌰
Admin
7 months ago

Just got back from a 6.5 mile trek into town and back to get me reading specs changed. Pant!
Gonna have a little rest.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
7 months ago

Per Jose, no Reguilon, Serge or GLC tomorrow:

“No, good news is not coming, [Reguilon] is not coming. No setback, Just the process is not going as fast as initially we thought, but no setback. So let’s see. Let’s see. Weekend, next Europa League match next Wednesday, let’s see.”

“Serge, sadly, may be even more time than Sergio,I would say that Sergio has some chances for Sunday, many chances for the second leg.”

“I don’t believe Serge Aurier can do either of these two, and, of course, Gio is not there.”

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SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
7 months ago

Really interesting Twitter Thread by The Other Bundesliga @OtherBundesliga.

On Thursday @WolfsbergerAC will “host” @SpursOfficial in the biggest game in their history.

The game in Budapest will be their first European knockout tie and the gulf between the two clubs is enormous. So, let’s compare them & talk about the rise of Wolfsberger AC!
Firstly, where is Wolfsberg? Wolfsberg is a city of 25,025 inhabitants in the state of Carinthia in the south of Austria, an area more known for winter sports than football. It is one of the smallest places to ever reach the #UEL knockouts.

How’s the ground?

WAC (as they’re known) play at the modest 8,100 capacity Lavanttal-Arena, which has a scenic backdrop.

Although in Europe they’ve played in both Graz (last season) & Klagenfurt (this season) to fit to UEFA standards – so they’re used to playing away in Europe.

Where have WAC come from?

The club were promoted to the Bundesliga in 2012 for the first time after being a long-term lower division side and haven’t looked back. 

They finished 5th in their first season. But two back-to-back third place finishes are their highest ever.

This is the third European campaign in their history and first time ever in the knockouts. 
How have they managed to compete against the likes of Salzburg, Rapid et al at the top of the Austrian Bundesliga on a shoestring budget?

WAC are the aim of every small club. Well-managed, top coaching, fiscally sensible & great scouting.

Their current success was moulded by Gerhard Struber (who was poached by Barnsley) and continued without fuss by Ferdinand Feldhofer. Both have a similar managerial philosophy.

Their scouting network has unearthed gems such as Israeli striker Shon Weissman. 
Signed on a free transfer, 30 goals and a Golden Boot later, he was sold for €4m to Real Valladolid in summer. A bonafide jackpot sum in a league of modest transfer fees (Salzburg aside!).

Even in Austrian Bundesliga terms, they’re a modest sized club. The majority of the squad have been brought in for minor fees or free transfers and they utterly smashed their record transfer fee to bring in Dario Vizinger from NK Celje for €800k in the summer.

So, who are WAC’s main men? 

Michi Liendl. Signed on a free from FC Twente is the Austrian Bundesliga’s assist king & at 35-years-old is their main creative outlet. One of the biggest cult figures in Austrian football. He scored a hat-trick against Feyenoord in the group stage.

Dejan Joveljic, a Serbian striker on loan from Eintracht Frankfurt, is having a great season so far & in double figures.

Defensive rock Dominik Baumgartner is also a big favourite of ours.

Despite being new to the #UEL stage, there’s been some memorable scalps…

A 4-0 win away at Borussia Monchengladbach
A 1-1 & a 2-2 draw vs. Roma
A 4-1 win away & a 1-0 home win vs. Feyenoord.
A 1-0 win away at CSKA Moscow. 

They aren’t to be taken lightly Spurs fans!

The Puskás Aréna in Budapest will host the game. WAC’s biggest ever game will take place not in their own area (Klagenfurt is still a 40 min drive from Wolfsberg), but not even their own country. It’s an unfortunate situation & would’ve been a huge financial boon for the club.

So Mourinho, Kane, Son, Bale et al might think of it as an simple passage through, but this is a David vs. Goliath clash. 

Nobody expects WAC to win this tie. But nobody expected them to qualify from the group, or finish 3rd in consecutive seasons. They are remarkable.

61 Spurs Njut 🌰
Admin
7 months ago

Vewwy, intewesting.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
8 months ago

BTW, there is a sliver of Yellowstone where you can get away with with murder.

Yellowstone is mainly in Wyoming, but there is a 50 square mile slice located in Idaho and a bigger piece in Montana.

The US Court for the District of Wyoming is the only United States district court to have jurisdiction over parts of multiple states because its jurisdiction includes all of Yellowstone, including the Idaho and Montana parts. In addition, the federal government has exclusive jurisdiction over the park, so crimes committed in the park cannot be prosecuted under any of the states’ laws.

Trials in the district court are held at the federal courthouse in Cheyenne, Wyoming. However, the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution holds that juries in federal criminal cases must be made up of citizens who are from both the district and state where the crime was committed. 

Because of this, charges for a crime alleged to have been committed in the Idaho area of the park would have to be tried before a jury consisting entirely of residents of that area, and the trial would also have to take place in that area.

As the Idaho portion of the park is remote, has no courthouses and is uninhabited, no such jury could be assembled. Thus the defendant would not be able to have a fair trial, and could not receive legal punishment for any alleged crimes.

No murder has been committed there yet. Nor has congress closed this loophole.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
8 months ago

That’s extraordinary, obviously that info’s on the web so surprised somebody hasn’t used it to get rid of someone.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
8 months ago

A few years back, a guy was arrested for poaching in the Idaho section. After some back and forth, the Feds tried him at the Wyoming courthouse, and he raised the 6th Amendment defense. The US Attorney must have got nervous and gave the defendant a plea bargain, conditioned on him not appealing based on the 6th Amendment defense.

It’s a crazy loophole.

61 Spurs Njut 🌰
Admin
7 months ago

Does the 6th amendment apply to foreigners. Arksin for a fiend.

Last edited 7 months ago by 61 Spurs Nunut
SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
7 months ago

For crimes committed in US jurisdiction, yes.

Funkenschlag!
Admin
7 months ago

Hmmm, interesting…

HjD 😷🇺🇸
HjD 😷🇺🇸
7 months ago

On the nature side of things, Yellowstone is amazing. Spectacular, beautiful. I lived three hours away for 18 years and was fortunate enough to visit it during all seasons. If you ever get the chance it is a must see.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
7 months ago

Definitely on my list. You know, if I ever travel anywhere again.

Funkenschlag!
Admin
7 months ago

In the meantime may I suggest scenic Yellowstone wallpaper, I’m assured it’s almost like being there in person…

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
7 months ago

Seen a few documentaries about it and it looks absolutely fabulous. If I had a bucket list it would be near the top.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
8 months ago

The Beast of the Day: A Bison at 35 below zero (F) at Yellowstone National Park.

Bison.jpg
89Spurs 👁
89Spurs 👁
8 months ago

That’s some pic, makes me feel cold!

61 Spurs Njut 🌰
Admin
7 months ago

D’ya want some, well, do ya?!

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
7 months ago

Not many creatures who want some of that.

Chauveljn
8 months ago

‘Challenge’ trials will begin at the Royal Free hospital, deliberately infecting healthy young volunteers with Covid-19. Looking at a range of data collection, including what viral load is required to cause infection, and looking at pathways of contamination.

Brave volunteers.

Last edited 8 months ago by Chauveljn
SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
8 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Certainly are, lucky there are people like that around. Had my jab today, lots of volunteer help and very organised.

Chauveljn
8 months ago

Yes, they require 90 volunteers who have had no prior exposure to the virus. They’ll be monitored 24 hours per day, that’s quite something to allow done to yourself.

DAVID
DAVID
8 months ago

How did it go, feeling ok ?

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
8 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

Just felt a small prick, nothing unusual… 😁

DAVID
DAVID
8 months ago

Sounds a bit pervy , suppose it’s usual for Romford. Which vaccine did they give you?

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
8 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

Had a choice between Oxford and Pfizer. Went for the Pfizer as there was the incidence of S Africa not recommending fir over 65’s. That might have been debunked but thought I might as well go with Pfizer anyway. Had to wait 15 mins after to see if there were any side effects but apparently you don’t need to if you have the Oxford. Sofa arm feels a tiny bit achy but no worse than the flu jabs.

merrance
merrance
8 months ago

how can you forget Ants

MiT
MiT
8 months ago

Erghhh. Fighting sciatica for weeks on end now. Very little relief from chiropractic.

Presently icing my back and arse. I can ice and maneuver and shift until some relief comes, but this stuff wears on a person over time. Any helpful experiences out there ?

Last edited 8 months ago by MiT
SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
8 months ago
Reply to  MiT

I got a back injury years back–got cleaned out defending a corner while playing for my law school team–and I still get painful flare-ups every couple of years. The last couple of times my doctor prescribed prednisone in a diminishing course for a week. It really knocks down the inflammation.

MiT
MiT
8 months ago

Interesting. I have been reluctant to go medical, as I have seen a few surgical hatchet jobs done to a few of my acquaintance’s backs over the years. I am not against a bit of prednisone.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
7 months ago
Reply to  MiT

I don’t blame you; I want to avoid the surgical route myself. And steroids should be avoided on a steady basis, but taking them for a week on a very irregular schedule isn’t too risky.

merrance
merrance
8 months ago
Reply to  MiT

https://77foods.com/say-goodbye-to-sciatic-nerve-pain-in-just-10-minutes-with-this-natural-method/2/
this might help mit,seems you are already doing what generaly heps. dare I say it,watching the lads hasnt helped the main nerve in your body.

MiT
MiT
8 months ago
Reply to  merrance

That’s an odd one, Mel. Trying to figure out how soaking feet in hot water and vinegar helps sciatica. I guess I have heard of stranger things, but not too many. 🙂

I have not been too concerned with Spurs’ play. They will either figure it out, or they won’t. Has no bearing on things that really should matter to me. I think a bit of that perspective has come from realising how nonessential professional sports really are.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
8 months ago

This Pochettino fella looks like he can manage a bit.

Chauveljn
8 months ago

Good for him. He got a plum job and hopefully this will be a great success. He should be able to use the summer transfer window and at PSG there are few money worries.

Funkenschlag!
Admin
8 months ago

Commentator completely ignoring the fact that Barca are more than a little average these days (have been for a while).

Flat Oeuf
Admin
8 months ago

You can see Messi wanting to leave Barca if they don’t win the CL this year

Flat Oeuf
Admin
8 months ago

Fucking VAR is such a bore.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
8 months ago
Reply to  Flat Oeuf

Sucking the life out of the game. VAR = Christopher Lee

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
8 months ago

Good old Poch.

Flat Oeuf
Admin
8 months ago

I miss him.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
8 months ago
Reply to  Flat Oeuf

Yep, even more so atm.

Flat Oeuf
Admin
8 months ago

Dr Nagelsmann and his young students doing a nice job of reviving the corpse of Liverpool’s season. :O)

mystic arnold
mystic arnold
8 months ago
Reply to  Flat Oeuf

Obviously getting ready for his new job

Chauveljn
8 months ago

What precisely was ‘magical’ about Salah scoring after the defender slipped over leaving him in on goal?

mystic arnold
mystic arnold
8 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

You must remember everything Liverpool do is wonderful

Flat Oeuf
Admin
8 months ago

Poch’s PSG are outplaying Barça but still haven’t managed to get ahead…I can see a goal against the run of play to spoil the party

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
8 months ago
Reply to  Flat Oeuf

Yep brings back some nice memories.

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