The evolution of Son Heung-Min

A version of this article was originally published on November 27, 2020, it has been updated following the confirmation that Son Heung-min has signed a new contract with Tottenham Hotspur running through to 2025.

By Charlie E********* and Tom Worville, The Athletic

As Son Heung-min finished coolly past Manchester City goalkeeper Ederson back in November 2020 to briefly move clear at the top of the Premier League goalscoring charts, not to mention keep Tottenham top of the Premier League, it was tempting to think about how far he had come over the previous few years.

In the summer of 2016 after a mixed first season in England, Son almost left the club to return to Germany. Instead, after deciding that he would not run away from the challenge, he knuckled down and became almost the prototypical Mauricio Pochettino player. Intense, intelligent, indefatigable.

Son’s improvement over the last few years is why he has signed a lucrative new deal at Spurs. The contract will bring Son, now 29, in line with Tottenham’s highest earners Harry Kane and Tanguy Ndombele and reflects his standing as one of the best players in the world.

The nature of the deal also reflects Son’s changed mindset. Short of confidence five years ago, Son is aware of his value now. He knew he merited a contract commensurate with his performances and standing at the club, and made that point to the Spurs hierarchy earlier this year. Chairman Daniel Levy and his colleagues agreed, taking us to the point where confirmation is expected imminently. Had they not, Son would have considered his options.

As Son’s performances on the pitch have cranked up a few gears, so too has his marketability. Last year, Son joined the sports division of Hollywood talent agency CAA — CAA Base. The company also looks after the commercial interests of former coach Jose Mourinho and midfielder Dele Alli, the latter of whom recommended the company to Son. To give a sense of how Son is viewed nowadays from a marketing perspective, Cristiano Ronaldo is another of CAA’s clients.

So how has Son transformed from struggling winger to elite forward? From shy newcomer to the centre point of the dressing room? From having a lot of commercial potential to becoming, in one source’s words, “East Asia’s David Beckham”.

This is how he got to that point. This is the journey of Son the player, the man, the brand.


The player

Tasked with scouting Son, Tottenham’s talent-spotters could instantly see why Pochettino had tried to sign the South Korean when he was Southampton manager in 2013. Son decided to leave Hamburg for Bayer Leverkusen instead, and during the intervening two years, he had developed into an even more exciting attacking option. Son was quick, made intelligent runs, and was seen as someone who could stretch opposition defences while playing off the emerging Kane, who would act as the team’s focal point.

Arsenal were among a host of other clubs watching Son, but it was Spurs who pushed hardest for the deal, completing the £22 million signing in August 2015. “He was a Mauricio-type player and what stood out was that at Leverkusen he played as a false nine, wide coming in, and his best asset which Mauricio liked was his running off the ball,” recalls David Webb, who was on the Spurs recruitment staff at the time.

“The timing of his movement and his runs stood out. He was a very smart, clever mover. Those were his outstanding attributes at this stage. And though he wasn’t the biggest, physicality is about contact but it’s also about the quality and precision of your movement, which he had.”Son scored 41 Bundesliga goals across six seasons with Hamburg and Leverkusen (Photo: Getty)

Son was 23 at the time and had scored 29 goals in 87 appearances for Leverkusen. He had joined two years earlier from Hamburg, where he lined up with a Tottenham favourite in Rafael van der Vaart. “We had a really good connection,” Van der Vaart remembers. “He was like a little boy at the time, barely out of his teens. I saw straight away that I need to play with him because I thought that us as a combination we could win some games. And that’s what we did.

“He became so good because he played one year with me,” Van der Vaart adds, laughing. “You have to ask him that, I always tell him that.”

Son started brightly at Spurs but a foot injury kept him out for more than a month and checked his momentum. He went on a run of 12 games without scoring and ended the season with eight goals from 40 appearances, and only four in the league (in his four completed seasons since he’s never managed fewer than 18 in all competitions). In the final game of the season, a humiliating 5-1 defeat at Newcastle, Pochettino was infuriated with Son and the team’s performance and lack of application.

On and off the pitch, Son was struggling to settle. He didn’t feature in Spurs’ first three games of the 2016-17 season and a return to Germany was a distinct possibility. But a deal could not be struck and with South Korea not having any fixtures during the September international break, Son spent the next couple of weeks training at Hotspur Way. It proved to be a critical period, as Son worked extremely hard and took advice from Pochettino about how he needed to knuckle down and not run away from a difficult situation.

Pochettino sensed that it had been a slight trepidation in Son that had led to him turning down Southampton and initially saying no to Spurs in the summer of 2015 before completing the move late in the window.

Son clearly took Pochettino’s words on board and his hard work during that international break impressed the manager, who started him for the next game away at Stoke City. Son scored twice and set one up in a 4-0 win.

There have been dips in form since and flashes of his temper — Son was sent off three times in 2019 — but Son developed massively in the 2016-17 season, scoring 21 goals in all competitions, which surprisingly remains a personal best.

Now fully fit and willing to embrace Pochettino’s demanding methods, the Spurs coaches set about maximising Son’s obvious potential. His speed and two-footedness were obvious, so they worked on Son’s finishing and his explosiveness, putting him and Kane through drills that tested their ability to be strong enough to repeat the same shooting actions again and again.

Then it was about developing the timing of Son’s runs, to ensure he could get in the positions to make the most of his improved finishing.

“He was always working on not just his shooting but his timing of runs and finishing,” Webb remembers. “From both sides. And rarely you’re coming onto through balls straight, you’re normally coming onto the ball at an angle. So your angled finishes are sometimes a little trickier depending on the goalkeeper’s position. So he’d do a lot of that kind of stuff to try and get a more realistic sense of how you finish in those kinds of situations.

“He didn’t play as an out-and-out winger so he’d play in the half-spaces between centre-backs and full-backs, and would always be coming in slightly at an angle so he wouldn’t be going straight through two centre-halves, which means his finishes would have to have a bit more of an edge and curve to them. That obviously had to be worked on because that was how Tottenham wanted him to play, making runs beyond defenders and getting shots away.”

Son’s improved finishing was reflected in his absurd numbers from that 2016-17 season, where he scored more than double the number of goals his Premier League expected goals (xG) tally suggested he should. Son’s xG from the quality of chances that fell his way was 6.7 goals, but his lethal finishing meant he ended the campaign with 14.

Son may have doubted himself during that first season at Tottenham, but throughout his career he has always been an exceptional trainer. As his manager at Leverkusen Roger Schmidt puts it: “He would train a lot, do extra training with his dad. After training, he would take a lot of shots with his left foot and right foot.”

The mention of his father and his two-footedness is important, as they are two factors that have been central to his development. Son’s coaches in Germany and at Spurs would love to claim credit for how two-footed he is, but this is something that the forward has been developing since his father started coaching Son as a child.

Son’s father Son Woong-jung is a former footballer himself but retired because of injury at 28. He then made it his mission to train up his sons Heung-min and Heung-yun, who played in the German fifth tier but is now a coach at his brother’s academy (more on that later). Woong-jung did not let his sons join a competitive team until they were teenagers, instead forcing them to partake in repetitive drills that would improve their technique. This is now the philosophy that underpins Son’s academy, based in his hometown of Chuncheon, a couple of hours east of Seoul.

One exercise, according to Heung-yun, involved the brothers having to keep the ball up in the air for four hours at a time, restarting the clock if the ball fell to the floor. The story sounds apocryphal, but Erik Thorstvedt, the former Spurs goalkeeper who visited Son’s academy last year for Norwegian channel TV3, says given the way the youngsters are trained at the academy it wouldn’t surprise him if it were true.

Son only had a couple of years playing team football in South Korea, before moving to Hamburg as a 16-year-old. And his technical grounding is best illustrated in his ability with either foot, even though his father only introduced shooting once his sons had mastered the basics of passing, dribbling and ball control.

In any case, Son’s ability to play off either foot has been a major reason for his development into an elite-level player. As the below tables illustrate, no Premier League player has registered a higher proportion of shots or goals with their wrong foot since Son joined Tottenham in 2015.

(All data correct up to November 27, 2020)

Over the last few years, Son has continued to work on his left foot, ensuring that it remains as strong as his right by staying behind after training and practising with it. Team-mates and coaches say if you watched Son shooting with his left foot, you wouldn’t know he was right-footed. Van der Vaart, who scored some spectacular goals for Spurs with his weaker right foot, says Son’s two-footedness was the quality that instantly struck him, and adds: “I think he doesn’t even know if he’s right or left-footed.”

As for his overall game, Son has developed hugely since 2016-17, even if he has not yet beaten that season’s goal tally. It’s strange to think that back then he wasn’t an automatic starter, and as late as December 2017 Pochettino had to field questions about why he remained so underrated. At this point, he was still behind Dele, Christian Eriksen and Erik Lamela in the pecking order.

But Son’s subsequent performances made him impossible to leave out and harder and harder to keep away from the centre of the pitch. His outstanding displays as a No 9 in Kane’s absence during the 2018-19 season helped Spurs reach the Champions League final, and made the idea of him playing on the left wing feel like a waste of his talents.

Under Jose Mourinho, Son started games nominally from the left wing but later played more as an inside-forward/No 9 hybrid, with Kane dropping deep into more of a No 10 role. As the below graphic shows, Son is taking fewer touches than ever before and spending far less time on the flanks than in any of his previous seasons at Spurs.

And as the next graphic shows, meanwhile, Son is doing much less defensive work, and focusing almost exclusively on progressive passing and getting shots away.

How good has Son become? There is the argument that he is not quite at the elite level yet, which is why none of the traditional superclubs has tried to sign him. The fact that he is still prone to the odd goal drought supports this — something that would not be tolerated at a club like Bayern Munich or Real Madrid. It’s also been pointed out that it’s difficult to know if a player is mentally strong enough to play for a club with the pressure of, say, Barcelona if they are approaching 30 and have never done it.

The flipside is that a big reason no club has aggressively pursued him is that he’s always been signed to a long-term contract under a chairman who has zero intention of selling him. Manchester City for instance are understood to have held an interest but have never taken it beyond that, while in scouting circles, he is deemed good enough to play for anyone.

What is certain is that Son has just enjoyed his most productive season in terms of goal scored — 22 in all competitions. And his improvement is such that some consider Son to be even more important for the team than Kane. “He is the main player for Tottenham,” Van der Vaart says. “Yes there’s Kane but I think he’s maybe more important. With his pace he’s such a threat, he creates for himself and his team-mates and can score. When he’s not playing, I believe that is a bigger miss than when Kane’s not there. He played really well when Kane wasn’t there.”

Whichever way you fall on that debate, what is clear is that since joining Tottenham, Son has proven himself to be an elite finisher. And beyond Kane, broadening this out to look at the Premier League as a whole, the next graph shows the relationship between goals and xG for all players in the division since Son joined in 2015-16.

The diagonal guidelines indicate by how much a player has scored above/below expected goals. These are important, because they help determine the amount of under/over performance by a player irrespective of how many goals they have scored.

Take Kane for instance, the top goalscorer in the league over this timeframe. Kane has scored 106 non-penalty goals from an xG of 81.6 in this time, scoring almost 24.4 more goals than he would be expected to do given the quality of his shots, which equates to an additional 30 per cent more goals.

Son on the other hand has scored fewer — 62 non-penalty goals from 40.3 xG. As a ratio, though, he’s added 54 per cent more goals than xG suggests that he should have scored.

These guidelines help point out players who have scored more goals than expected at roughly similar rates. Notably, there’s only a handful of players who have consistently beaten their xG in recent seasons.

Focusing on 2020-21, the table below shows that Son has stepped up another level and is averaging 1.11 goals per 90 minutes, while again substantially outscoring his xG.

“He was excellent with me at Leverkusen, and has become world-class at Tottenham,” says Schmidt.


The man

Son’s improvement on the pitch after his first season went hand in hand with him feeling more settled off it. Players coming in from different leagues often struggle early on when it comes to adapting to the new culture and way of playing, and Son was no different. More recently, record signing Ndombele suffered similar issues. Pochettino said shortly before leaving Spurs that in his mind it took new signings two years to fully settle in the Premier League. He even cited Son as an example to prove his point.

Son had been a bit shy and nervous when he first arrived at Spurs, but over time he has become one of the most important figures in the dressing room. His energy and sense of fun make him someone that everyone at the club gravitates towards. His dance moves and handshakes are well known, but within the club he is also known for his frequent, and awful, singing around Hotspur Way. It’s something his team-mates enjoy teasing him about.

As well as constantly making them laugh, Son is seen by his colleagues as someone always willing to help out. And reassuringly, his increased fame and reputation are not said to have changed him — even though he is hero-worshipped in his native South Korea. He still lives at home in a north London apartment with his parents, and always makes sure to stop for the Korean journalists in mixed zones who have come to matches specifically to see him. Specifically to satisfy the needs of his legion of fans who have stayed up through the night back in South Korea to watch him.

Son is friendly with everyone in the squad, especially the likes of Dele, Moussa Sissoko and Hugo Lloris. No Spurs player though has ever held as special a place in his heart as former defender Kevin Wimmer. Helped by Son speaking fluent German, the pair became inseparable and used to have their team-mates in stitches the way they would do everything together. Be it walking to the car park, turning up for meals, or going to the gym. It’s just a shame the Amazon Prime cameras weren’t there a few years ago, or the pair could have had their own spin-off series.

Son’s closest confidant though has always been his father, whose disciplined approach means the forward doesn’t socialise apart from during training and at games. But Son loves living in north London, and it’s understood to be one of the reasons he has not seriously pursued a move away from the club.

For those who knew him at the start of his career, Son blossoming into such a confident character has come as a surprise.

“I didn’t think that he had the (ability to be) really open and walk into a dressing room,” Van der Vaart says. “Never. He was a little bit shy.

“But I saw him recently and he’s totally found his place at Tottenham. Really the right club for him. Everybody loves him, I’m so happy for him.”

Son “totally finding his place” meant he was in a strong position to make his case to Levy when it came to renegotiating his contract. Having been seen under Pochettino as someone easier to leave out because he wasn’t one to kick up a fuss, Son has become more assertive. He is not someone who is going to aggressively self-promote, but he knows how much he is worth.

Which thanks to his performances and marketability, is a quite considerable amount.


The brand

When it became known that Son was looking for new representation, the ears of every talent agency pricked up. A world-class athlete with an enormous following in emerging markets has the potential to open up a host of commercial opportunities. “Every big agency tried to get in touch with Son because they know he’s the David Beckham of East Asia,” says a source.

In the end, it was CAA who won the race, helped by Dele speaking well of the agency to his team-mate.

Son has held endorsement deals with brands including Gillette, Samsung, and Cartier, and his hero-like status in South Korea makes him viewed as one of the most marketable footballers in the world. His standing in his homeland is such that according to a recent study by Nielsen Fan Insights, Tottenham have become comfortably the most well-supported club in South Korea having previously held negligible appeal in the country. More than 21 per cent of those surveyed said Spurs was their favourite club, with Manchester United second with 6.1 per cent.

That Son should be so influential is not surprising — one need only visit Spurs’ training ground in normal times to see that whatever the weather and time of year, there will be Son fanatics who have made the pilgrimage over from their homeland to try and catch a glimpse of Son.

Even prior to joining Tottenham, Son’s Leverkusen team-mates were given an insight into Son-mania when they visited a shopping mall on a pre-season tour of South Korea and around 30,000 people turned up.

“He’s a national hero,” says Lee Sook-young, a South Korean journalist based in Seoul. “It’s crazy, so crazy. He’s untouchable, a really big star, he could not be bigger. Every kid learns football now.”

And in Seoul, the sports bars like Bonghwangdang (for Liverpool fans), Good Neck (Manchester United), now show Tottenham games as well.

Son’s popularity is helped by the fact that as well as being the nation’s foremost athlete, he has managed to remain connected to his homeland. In April he returned to South Korea to complete his three weeks of basic military training, and enhanced his reputation by being given the best performance award from his cohort. He was specially commended, fittingly, for his shooting skills.

That Son only had to do a basic training programme was because of an exemption earned by winning a gold medal at the 2018 Asian Games — yet another reason he is so revered.

Son is generally, in non-pandemic times, a regular visitor to South Korea. He likes to return to his home country around four times a year whenever he’s not playing to check up on his academy. Having invested almost £10 million to clear the land and create his own academy, this is not an enterprise he takes lightly.Son’s performances have made Tottenham the best-supported club in South Korea (Photo: Getty)

Overseen by his father and with his brother as one of the coaches, the sprawling complex only allows in a small number of students and focuses on basic skills rather than team play or matches.

There is education on offer as well for the children of secondary school age. Young people from all over the country have joined the academy in the hope of becoming the next Son, and since there is no accommodation on-site it’s a requirement for families to move to the fairly remote Chuncheon. A Son museum is being built as part of the complex, and the hope is that the academy will allow young South Koreans to move to a European club as their hero did back in 2008.

A supplementary point to Son’s huge popularity in his homeland is whether this has much of a commercial benefit to Tottenham. Of course this wasn’t a factor in Spurs looking to renew his contract, but it is a question that has been raised when considering Son’s value to the club.

By way of an answer, Marco Nazzari, Managing Director of International at Nielsen Sports, explains: “Son’s popularity brings access to a large, growing and engaged audience of football fans not just in South Korea but more broadly in Asia.

“Spurs can capitalise on this popularity through insights into their fanbase and engagements with Son across social channels. A clear understanding of the athlete’s total value provides the club leverage during negotiations for new and existing deals involving sponsorship, licensing and merchandising. This leverage enables them to extract maximum market value under the best possible terms.”

Typically it’s been shirt sales that have been proffered as a way of making big money in Asian markets, but this is seen as an increasingly outdated strategy. For a start clothes manufacturers take much of the profit, and as Simon Chadwick, professor of Eurasian sports at Emlyon business school, explains, in many East Asian countries, the majority of Spurs’ target audience simply don’t buy football shirts. He points to what Manchester United are doing in China as an example of clubs moving away from the trying to sell shirts model.

“Manchester United have been opening up a whole series of experience centres in China, including one located in a fashionable part of Beijing, very close to Tiananmen Square,” professor Chadwick explains. “There’s a Starbucks roastery where you pay $10 (£7.75) for a cup of coffee, there’s a Muji hotel which is ultra-cool and then there’s a Manchester United experience centre that’s part of this development. So what United’s figured out is that lifestyle and status and middle-class spending power is really important in China, meaning people don’t buy football shirts.”

Essentially then, the key to Spurs capitalising on having such a popular player as Son will be how sophisticated their commercial approach in different Asian markets is (while bearing in mind that each market is very distinct). Fortunately, they have some good form in this area.

Spurs have typically focused on China when looking for commercial opportunities in Asia, and as far back as 2009 joined up with Coventry University in a British Council project that involved visits to China and Thailand to foster improved business understanding between the countries. Professor Chadwick, at Coventry University at the time, went on the trips and was impressed by Spurs’ willingness to try and properly understand foreign markets. “I do commend and praise Tottenham for how it uses a research-driven approach and engages with overseas markets,” he says. On one of the trips Chadwick went on, club representatives even joined up with Spurs fans at a Tottenham Hotspur Beijing supporters club meeting, realising how important it is to engage with fans on a personal level.

In the case of Son, though, Spurs may well find that any benefit is only really in the short term, with supporters increasingly following an individual player rather than a team. Meaning that when Son leaves the club, many South Koreans who were previously Spurs fans will either start following whoever he moves to or focus their attention on the next most talented of his compatriots.

“There is an emerging trend among football fans globally but particularly in East Asia and with younger Generation Z and Millennial fans, where engagement with a player is not necessarily the prelude to engagement with a team,” Professor Chadwick explains. “What we’re instead seeing is that fans are following players, not clubs. In Britain something similar is happening where there are a lot of young fans who love (Kylian) Mbappe, they don’t care about Paris Saint-Germain, they just love Mbappe.”

The growth of gaming, and especially the hugely popular Ultimate Team mode on the behemoth FIFA series where you build up a squad with players from all over the world, has added to this sense of allegiance more towards individuals than teams.

More broadly it remains hard to quantify the value of a supporter — be they in Seoul or Southend. There are many “fans” who contribute nothing financially to their club in terms of buying match tickets or merchandise, but may do so in less lucrative, less quantifiable ways by, say, retweeting a team’s social media content. Many of you reading this may not actually directly contribute much financially to the teams you support.

None of which is a concern to Son, who only stands to benefit from supporters identifying more with players than with clubs.


Given Son is 29 and unlikely to command a mega transfer fee by the time he turns 30, Spurs offering such a lucrative long-term deal could be seen as a risk. But given his performances and improvement over the last few years, it will likely end up being viewed as a shrewd investment.

Since his unhappy period in 2016, Son has become one of the most important, respected and liked players in the Premier League, let alone the club. If his current trajectory continues, the next few years will be even better.

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SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

Tomorrow’s Headline in the Telegraph:

‘Double jab needed to watch Premier League’

No vax, no match

TCY
TCY
1 month ago

Watched the trash sports Olympics today. 3 on 3 basketball. US slaughtered Mongolia (!!). 4 pygmies who had never played basketball before this morning against 4 testosterone stuffed 7 footers.

Now on—men’s volleyball. Each point celebrated like a goalazzo from 50 yards and announcers give new meaning to the word homer. My god.

The Greeks are twirling in their graves. Won’t watch any more of this dreck.

GDawg
GDawg
1 month ago
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You certainly need to be very selective about what you watch these days. So many sports that should be there IMHO

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago

Beautiful , hahaha ‘why are they surprised?’ Cheers funks ✊

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
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AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

Sorry it’s the same link chauvs posted , different angle 😂

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

It’s worth two links!

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

😁 Danny Murphy on sonny boy -I’m sure he is getting a great financial deal, but the chances are he is not going to win very much in the next couple of years at Tottenham.
“That’s the honest fact.
“So he is obviously not that bothered about winning things.”

Shove his words up his arse sonnyboy. ! What a bitter plum Danny is. Can’t wait for sonny to stuff the reds . An honest fact , fuck off , he’s not even half the player sonny is.

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AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

Shit spreaders will be ramped up in no time . Involving Joe Lewis now. Hold onto your seats , it’s gonna get bumpy .COYS!!!

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
1 month ago

A modern twist on the old spot the ball competition; spot the away shirt..

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AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago

Paint a borough united?

Chauveljn
1 month ago

Looks like another lot of Pollock to me.

Chauveljn
1 month ago

Gulp!

“I learned an important rule: if you like a player and you consider him important, you can pay a little more than the market price because you have to buy this guy. This can only happen if you are convinced of the player’s skills and potential. If you see a top talent and are sure of him, you cannot lose him for a few million: pay and move on.”

🤩

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jul/24/spurs-tottenham-fabio-paratici-managing-director-football-tottenham

Ronwol196061
Ronwol196061
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Does Paratici have the last word? FOF will never believe it

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  Ronwol196061

He thinks he does. So far.

It’s what worried me. Being a DoF at Juve is one thing…

Jan Vertiginous
Jan Vertiginous
1 month ago
Reply to  Ronwol196061

Alasdair Gold said that Levy gives the final ok on deals, which would explain why Tomayasu went to the Olympics with the clubs being €1million apart in valuation.

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
1 month ago

Me like Toby, me wish him all the best (if he goes).
So long and thanks for all the fish.

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stevo1987
stevo1987
1 month ago

So you went to a comprehensive school? Me like Toby…. lol

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Smashing all me jugs and ripping up me only shakespear books as we speak (Tobe or not to bloody be)..Nah wish the man well. TobyTobyTobyToby Alderweireld 🍻

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

How’s the good lady stevo? She doing alright ?

stevo1987
stevo1987
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

She is ok in herself a the moment Ant – thanks. She has been in hospital nearly 4 weeks now. What the future brings we don’t know.

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Best wishes for your wife and you at this hard time Stevo.

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Are you ok? Said a little prayer for you earlier Stevo wishing for a quick return home , so yous can all get to spoil her .She sounds a tuff cookie, chin up ,chest out, keep strong and keep smiling mate.

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

Unless she thinks that’s weird in which case , don’t do that .

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago

Hey lost a post, any chance of finding the bad boy please administratos?

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AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

got a quick flash , and gone again.

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago

Muchas gracias senor Andes 😀

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

You can have this one.

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AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

😁If we all chip in a piece , we,’ll have a great housewarming present for our new man between the sticks. Top chunage from Jim Gilly downstairs , nice one .

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago

Welcome the the Lane , He’s dapper, the papa, the rapper with the gloves (name of a chune he produced for charity )

Rasing a pear bellini, for the main man Pier Luigi Gollini.

🎶Go Go Go Gollorius 🎶(his pseudonym) from the notorious Y.I.D

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/spurs-tottenham-gollini-rapper-grealish-24609032

Chauveljn
1 month ago

Amazeball bollards about Spurs earmarking Greizmann to replace Harry Kane. Yep, we’ll drop 80 million euros on a 30 year old pocketing a reported 800,000 euros per week. No wonder Barcelona are desperate to shift him.

Barca have been so badly managed.

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

€800,000 a week? Wow, I wish I had a wage that doubled every day..

Chauveljn
1 month ago

S’what I read. Four hundred thousand euros ain’t small potatoes either.

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Got that figure from here not a newspaper. Thought it would be more reliable, but perhaps not?

https://fcbarcelonalatestnews.com/fc-barcelona-players-wages/

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Not sure what griezmans on but the numbers in the table are a bit dodge . I make their weekly spend 5,028,309 and annual wage spend 261, 472 and some change (using the pance calc)

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

I got 06 at the end so maybe 261,472,060

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

They have racked up a stupendous debt which is killing them. More, or less the same as Spurs, but we’ve got a state of the art stadium and facilities from the spend as an asset for the decades to come.

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

It will be akin to one of those grandnationals where all the front runners go over and Daniel rides in on his donkey to win it. Quite enjoying watching the big boys having to sell up and the prima donas losing their shit at the thought of having a reduction in salary . Time for Daniel to steppon the gas a little bit to take advantage .

Last edited 1 month ago by AntSpurj
AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Indeed ,although those numbers in the table are not basic wages , the numbers include endorsements , for example with Messis 1.36M Per week , his basic wage is apparently 500K. Most places I’ve seen have Griezman on 400,000 euros , £342,400 quid per week. Can’t see it but possible if Daniel gets the bux for harry. If we could get him for £80M it’s doable . I would , with the info I have to hand .

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

Could you imagine if we buy him and keep Harry 😯

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

For one season even, Harry , sonny, Dele and Griezman.

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

Winks and sissy behind…..fuck Manchester city…..dreamland city.

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

That’s what I’d read as well, so rather surprised to see you say he’s on €800,000 a week tizzall. 🤪

Ronwol196061
Ronwol196061
1 month ago

Is NO News Good News?

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  Ronwol196061

Yes. Unless Fabio has actually been playing Candy Crush or Risk all this time!

DAVID
DAVID
1 month ago

Watching the rowing on Eurosport 2.

Northern Spur
Northern Spur
1 month ago

I think the Olympics sold its soul a long time ago, so it does little for me. No way should football, tennis, baseball and golf be allowed to have yet another day in the sun at the expense of lower profile sports. Just sayin..

Ronwol196061
Ronwol196061
1 month ago
Reply to  Northern Spur

Id like to see the football leagues have a tournament between them in footie. They had a watered down version years ago but this would be great to have the PL versus the other leagues etc

Ronwol196061
Ronwol196061
1 month ago

True but I think its better than internationals!

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
1 month ago
Reply to  Northern Spur

Spot on, my sentiments eggzakerly!

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  Northern Spur

50/50 , agree they shouldnt be there(don’t watch any of those mentioned) but hasn’t yet diminished watching many of the others on display. Judo and track n field are faves, but don’t mind a bit of kayaking, powerlifting ,shooting and gymnastics to go wiv.

Last edited 1 month ago by AntSpurj
stevo1987
stevo1987
1 month ago
Reply to  Northern Spur

Yep, it is a pile of shit.All of it.

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Don’t pretend you don’t like the hula hula competition.

Northern Spur
Northern Spur
1 month ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Thanks for getting down off the fence, Stevo!

GDawg
GDawg
1 month ago
Reply to  Northern Spur

Not to mention skateboarding and rock climbing

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago

Been watching a bit of the judo which is on all week, up to quarter finals for men and women between 11am and 2.30pm and the semis and beyond from 5pm to 7.50pm . Lighters today , under 48’s women’s and 60kg men today, moving up to the heavyweights by Friday , team events saturday. Shame Ashley Mckenzie went straight out.

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

Adam Peaty in the swimming is exciting.so ridiculously good, he hasn’t been beaten for nearly 7 years I think.

DAVID
DAVID
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

He’s got an outboard motor in his budgie smugglers.

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  DAVID

😆just had a littlun too . Grown quite a moustache to give em a chance .

DAVID
DAVID
1 month ago

Just tuned in to the Hundred cricket match for the first time, players in fancy dress, epilepsy inducing graphics on the screen, commentators trying to make it sound incredibly exciting and as if they are witnessing a brand new sport, talk about the Emperor’s new clothes, it’s shite!

Paleo
Paleo
1 month ago
Reply to  DAVID

Ya reckon? I don’t know, the thought of listening to Yorkshire twat saying wicket every two minutes and saying how great he himself was for the entire match makes me positively inverted, I wouldn’t boycott it

Matt
Matt
1 month ago

Of course we shouldn’t need a re-build. But I’d forgotten how exciting it is. Who’re we linked to today?

cavey
cavey
1 month ago

https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2018/august/catching-up-with-richard-gough/ I was so disappointed when Richard Gough left. He was a proper defender when I used to go to the Lane!

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  cavey

He appeared, was excellent for that season, then pissed off.

It was a big anti-climax. Very Spursy to find a top defender and then lose them.

Matt
Matt
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Gough just with us for one season! Memory plays tricks I’d have said at least 2 or 3. One of the best CBs we’ve had.

DAVID
DAVID
1 month ago
Reply to  Matt

Think his wife couldn’t settle in England, shame for us.

Northern Spur
Northern Spur
1 month ago
Reply to  DAVID

Must be too many pesky southerners wot scared her off!

Northern Spur
Northern Spur
1 month ago
Reply to  Matt

Agree 100%

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
1 month ago

I’m thinking of creating an antidote to News Now especially for Tottenham supporters
I don’t read the other teams pages but ours is always full of potential fantasy buys

TCY
TCY
1 month ago

Toby of Arabia. News is he is headed for Doha. Sorry to see him go but it’s time.

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  TCY

Great for Toby IF he wants to go. Final big contract, and of course tax free. Then can go back to play for Antwerp for peanuts but see out his career back home.

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
1 month ago
Reply to  TCY

Sunni days,Sunni days where would I be without my woman

Matt
Matt
1 month ago
Reply to  TCY

If you’ve got pots of cash and have a pick of many locations for the twilight of your career; would you choose Doha?

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  Matt

But as the World Cup is being staged there in just over a year’s time, Toby will be fully acclimatised for Belgium. It could be very useful.

Matt
Matt
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Bet his wife is delighted! 😆

Northern Spur
Northern Spur
1 month ago
Reply to  Matt

Hope she’s not like Mrs Gough!

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  Matt

The idea mega rich sports people only have one home is a little out of touch. A Toby could rent a villa out there as well as moving the family back to Belgium.

HjD 🇺🇸
HjD 🇺🇸
1 month ago
Reply to  TCY

If he had to leave I hope he gets what he wants. Class act all of the way.

DAVID
DAVID
1 month ago
Reply to  HjD 🇺🇸

Yes, shame he’s not bit younger, best CB we have had for a while.

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  DAVID

He was tremendous alongside Jan for 3/4 seasons.

TCY
TCY
1 month ago

Gollini in. Hart out?

Chauveljn
1 month ago

Never seen this before. Glad it’s being tracked and quantified. Good find.

I wonder if it is just the print versions?

61 Spurs Nunut
Admin
1 month ago

Nice of you to Eccleshare.

wasdanspurs
1 month ago
Reply to  61 Spurs Nunut

By eccles, that made me laugh 😅

Chauveljn
1 month ago

One for Ant, I think this will be your kind of sound.
https://youtu.be/9fNKSOYSP1w

Northern Spur
Northern Spur
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

I remember that from my disco days! Such nostalgia!!

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  Northern Spur

We’re vintage Northern! Not yet antiques.

MiT
MiT
1 month ago

Wasdan –

Texted the ‘Sonsational’ doc on Amazon to myself to watch.

Hopefully will give me a lot more perspective. Thank you for that !

Last edited 1 month ago by MiT
wasdanspurs
1 month ago
Reply to  MiT

Hope you enjoy, MiT. Not the greatest, but interesting enough.

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
1 month ago

New flash!
‘Good’ fish and chips have now been plaiced on the endangered list.

Last edited 1 month ago by Oh no, not Nuno!
ronwol196061
ronwol196061
1 month ago

You rock!

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
1 month ago
Reply to  ronwol196061

…and roe

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  ronwol196061

We should skate past this subject, it’s not the plaice for it.

stevo1987
stevo1987
1 month ago

Good evening Fatties!

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

Mauricio Pochettino has signed a one-year contract extension with Paris St-Germain which will keep him at the club until 2023.

“I’m really very happy, for myself and also for my staff,”

“It’s very important for us to feel the confidence of the club and we will give our maximum so that the supporters are proud of Paris St-Germain.”

“That’s why we will try and reach our objectives all together, as one. Twenty years ago I was captain of this club and today I am the coach. It’s a dream come true.”

Chauveljn
1 month ago

And now his family has been released…

I think after the Spurs manager hunt episode he had to reaffirm his position at PSG to get all the fans back onside.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

The Times claim Paratici has offered up the following players:

– Joe Hart
– Serge Aurier
– Toby Alderweireld
– Davinson Sanchez
– Eric Dier
– Harry Winks
– Cameron Carter-Vickers 
– Jack Clarke 

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
1 month ago

To whom?
For what?

Chauveljn
1 month ago

Medical experiments.

Matt
Matt
1 month ago

What do we reckon realistically? £60m the lot?

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago
Reply to  Matt

Thereabouts.

MiT
MiT
1 month ago

– Joe Hart – 2M
– Serge Aurier – 15M
– Toby Alderweireld – 7M
– Davinson Sanchez – 25M
– Eric Dier – 12M
– Harry Winks – 20M
– Cameron Carter-Vickers – 8M
– Jack Clarke – 6M

Reckon around 95M

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  MiT

I think all the minus signs are a wee bit pessimistic. Although – 2 million for Joe Hart is probably close to how much it’ll cost to offload him.

stevo1987
stevo1987
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

I never got the Joe Hart buy. I thought Gazza was half decent.

Chauveljn
1 month ago
Reply to  stevo1987

José said he wanted him as one of his “winners”, having an influence in the dressing room.

I thought it was optimistic, shall we say!

Hart is no longer a dependable pair of hands from what I’ve seen.

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
1 month ago
Reply to  MiT

5 loans 4 trade swaps 3 sales

GDawg
GDawg
1 month ago
Reply to  ronwol196061

2 turtle doves and a partridge in a pear tree

Paleo
Paleo
1 month ago

Very disappointing,no fucking pie charts

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
1 month ago
Reply to  Paleo

Who ate all the pie charts..

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

Italian agent Furio Valcareggi on Romero: “If I were Paratici and Tottenham, I would take him immediately. You will put the defence in place for 10 years. Just like if you take Koulibaly, he sets your defence in one fell swoop. He’s the Ronaldo of defending.” [TuttoMercato]

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

SHIT:

CDC Monitoring New Monkeypox Outbreaks, Tracking Over 200 Individuals in 27 States

https://www.mediaite.com/news/cdc-monitoring-new-monkeypox-outbreaks-tracking-over-200-individuals-in-27-states/

Chauveljn
1 month ago

Maybe just look at Number 45’s public speaking itinerary….

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
1 month ago

Shazam!!

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

Fun times for the Seattle Sounders last night. Playing Austin away and missing 12 (yes, 12) 1st team players through injury, suspension and Olympic call-ups, and forced to start 5 teenage academy players, most supporters were hoping to grind out a 0-0 draw. But then Rual Ruidiaz did this:

https://twitter.com/SoundersFC/status/1418612118732017674

Spursy
Spursy
1 month ago

Wow!

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

NEW: Tottenham are prioritising other signings whilst Bryan Gil represents Spain in Tokyo. Gil can’t officially complete his move to Tottenham until after the Olympics. Everything is still agreed. [ABC Sevilla]

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

The Cleveland Indians baseball team are shedding their somewhat problematic name and will be the Cleveland Guardians next season.

I was hoping they’d go with the Steamers.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

Google it [not safe for work)

stevo1987
stevo1987
1 month ago

Woketastic!

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

I will now rebuild the team.

OUT: Kane (160m),Foyth (15m),Winks (20m), Aurier (10m), Toby (10m), Dier (10m), Moussa (free), Lamela (swap), Sanchez (swap) Hart (dump him).

IN: Romero, Tomiyasu, Danny Ings, Dušan Vlahović, Bryan Gil, Max Aarons, Aurélien Tchouaméni (Monaco DM), Leon Bailey (Bayer Leverkusen winger).

My team is young, fast and skillful.  

GK: Hugo, Gollini, Whiteman
CB: Romero, Rodon, Tanganga, Tomiyasu
LB: Reggi, Sess
RB: Aarons, Doherty
Mids: Tchouameni,PEH, GLC, Tanguy, Skipp, Dele
Attackers: Lucas, Son, Bergie, Gil, Bailey
CF: Ings, Vlahovic

We’re winning the league!

wasdanspurs
1 month ago

Levy likes how this post starts but lost faith at the second paragraph. He’s thinking, hm,stadium debt almost halved and parrott, skippy, scarlett…

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago

Cor, nuffin for sissy . He’s gotta be worth a tenner of anyone’s money 😂.

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

Dele should be in the attacking section ,most likely GLC too, this could leave us a bit light in the middle . I’m telling Nuno on you.

Last edited 1 month ago by AntSpurj
AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

The MF will be Winks, Skipp, Sissy, Hojbjerg, N dom and a bit of GLC.

Last edited 1 month ago by AntSpurj
SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

I’m revising that. I forgot Sissy signed that contract extension. We’d get a couple of quid for him.

Last edited 1 month ago by SeattleSpursGuy
AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago

I’ll pay a fiver if you throw in Dier.

Bruxie
Bruxie
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

Ant…see last bloeug for answer to your Greaves and the corner question. Read the book!

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  Bruxie

Hahaha it was you. Great stories yours and Ronnies , did make me larf shutting the faces of the Jimmy bashers . Nice touch at the ending, to mention you now would like to be in a position to say ‘thanks son ‘ .

Were you at that 5-1 utd game in ’65? Gonna have another read of it a bit later. Cheers for sharing that , much enjoyed and appreciated .

Ronnie walking with a goonie at 12 yrs old from Camden to spurs to witness out biggest ever victory made me smile 😁

Last edited 1 month ago by AntSpurj
Bruxie
Bruxie
1 month ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

Cheers Ant.
No…I lived in Darlington.

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
1 month ago
Reply to  Bruxie

Welcome Brux 👍

MiT
MiT
1 month ago

I believe in a young squad. However, that is basically the same midfield that has long struggled to tie defense and attack together in transition.

Curious to see what Skipp brings.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

BREAKING: Cristian Romero is ONE STEP away from joining Tottenham, an agreement has been reached and the announcement will soon take place. The club have agreed a fee with Atalanta for €50m. [Calcio Mercato]

DAVID
DAVID
1 month ago

Hope this happens.

DAVID
DAVID
1 month ago

He’s a top kitman and orange cutter.

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
1 month ago

I spent a long time going to Japan more than Korea but over the years I grew to respect them more and more.
In Japan they say 10 Japanese will beat 10 Koreans as they work more together
They also say one Korean will beat one Japanese as individually they are more capable.

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
1 month ago

When Son is happy and smiling he does great. But I think sometimes (for instance when Bale AND Harry played) he put negative pressure in himself.
Make him happy and its a gold rush

DAVID
DAVID
1 month ago

I think the third person in the photo was using her powers of persuasion to try and get Maradona to sign.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

Interesting. Reports from Spain say Barcelona are struggling to clear the decks in order to register their new signings and Lionel Messi’s new contract. Barca have moved several youngsters and fringe players but they are struggling to get rid of the big earners, and they have asked Sergio Busquets, Jordi Alba and Sergi Roberto to take pay cuts, which they declined to do.

If they can’t reduce their outgoings they risk not being able to register Messi’s new contract or new signings Memphis Depay, Sergio Aguero, Eric Garcia and Emerson Royal. League president Javier Tebas has said he will not relax the rules for Barcelona.

What a Shame [notashame]

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

Just had an e-mail from the club flogging the new away kit.

Thank you, but no.

Why can’t kits be like this any more?

Ossie.jpg
Chauveljn
1 month ago

Any idea who the midget in the picture is? Must be a genuine two footed player.

wasdanspurs
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Never noticed that was a person in the picture before. Always assumed it was McOssie’s Sporran.

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
1 month ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

And three handed

Chauveljn
1 month ago

Picture brings back great memories seeing Maradona at the Lane. Under the shelf watching his remarkably powerful running and weaving. Really hard to stop the guy.

wasdanspurs
1 month ago

Up there with my favourite ever Spurs shirts. Funnily enough, ordered it from the Spurs shop earlier this week as I had a coupon to use up. Interested to see the quality – when I bought it back in 86 you used to have to get the Holsten added yourself with stick on transfers and when it finally went in the bin in the late nineties it was because the blue stripes were peeling off like paint! Still regret throwing it out now.

Would never buy the new third shirt but have to admit I don’t mind it. I think third kits should be a bit off-kilter.

wasdanspurs
1 month ago

Well I was only fifteen / sixteen when I went to the extreme of getting the logo printed on, and they started to come with the logo on with the next set of shirts (ironically the one where half of the FA Cup Final shirts the players wore had no logos). These days, I’d only buy the last version or a retro version to exercise in as, for the money, they tend to last longer than a similarly priced gym top. I wouldn’t be seen out in one and I’ve never bought the latest version and can’t believe people really pay £70 or more for one. Each to their own.

The retro ones do make me nostalgic for the eighties though. My wife bought me the EUFA Cup Final one last Xmas, which is the closest I could get to 84/85, the first ever one I bought. I’m about to slip into it now and go and do half an hour on the bike in the garage. I might even peddle a little. Doubt it, though.

wasdanspurs
1 month ago

Oh I wear that under the shirt to try and keep a hint of shape…

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago

Hey Pep, where’s our £160m? Small bills, non-sequential. Put up or shut up.

DAVID
DAVID
1 month ago

Disappointed to see Charlie only got 9 stars….

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
1 month ago
Reply to  DAVID

I believe nothing unless it comes from Charlie……and maybe Jack.

DAVID
DAVID
1 month ago

Very wise.

GDawg
GDawg
1 month ago

Interesting article. It seems the boy does not have his head easily turned. He likes London and he likes Spurs. DL apparently gave him an offer he considered to be worthy and respectful, and he signs accordingly. No forced exits from Son Heung Min!! Great guy to have at any club

Last edited 1 month ago by GDawg
Chauveljn
1 month ago

Cheers SpurAndy.

Are you paying my Eccleshare’s royalties now or later? 😂

Chauveljn
1 month ago

You flirt. 😏

Chauveljn
1 month ago

You know I can’t resist someone who smokes ready rub and wears Old Spice…