Stick or Twist; What do you Believe?

A Shelfy penned production.

On the back of a painful series of dropped points against Burnley, Chelsea and those who must not be mentioned I thought it about time to look forward.

We have a lot to look forward to, a winnable tie against Dortmund for a place in the last eight of Europes Elite competition this week, a new stadium, maybe next month and the summer transfer window where I am confident we will see some new faces.

I believe Poch has a genuine dilemma with the squad, and I am not talking about the restrictions on foreign players nor the homegrown quota, which do undoubtedly cause making acquisitions more difficult. The dilemma is where do you find better players than we have for a price we can afford (both transfer fee and wages). If you look at our results over the past few years we have been one of the best teams in the PL. Second and third place finishes each year behind a different champion shows a good level of consistency at a high level of performance, we have had more than our fair share of cup semi-finals too. Close but no cigar as they say.

The reason for mentioning recent performance is to highlight that there aren’t many teams doing much better than us. I think in the last three or four years only Man City have accrued more points than us. That means other teams don’t have better players (on the whole) than we do (again not including City), which makes it hard to pick up talented players that are definitely going to make an impact. Sure each team has a star or two (like Zaha at Palace) but realistically we are not going to get players like him in.

Younger players doing well in the lower leagues has been a good source of players for us e.g. Dele but it can be hit and miss. A cases in point that has been discussed recently is that of Ryan Sessengon, Fulham’s wonder kid and the next Gareth Bale, all based on tearing up trees in the championship. Fast forward to today and the poor kid looks just like Bale did when he first joined Spurs and now he can’t even make Fulham’s first team on a regular basis. For every great hope there are many great failures.

So Poch’s dilemma that I speak of is whether to stick or twist. Last Summer ‘stick’ seemed to be a good idea. We had a young but maturing squad who had played some fantastic football in patches and looked like they were developing into world beaters (games against Madrid fall into that category) but of course, as young teams often are, they were not quite consistent enough against the very best teams to pick up silverware. I suspect Poch believed in this group and this group probably believed in themselves and once the post World cup lack of preparation syndrome was out of the way the boys started to fire on all cylinders (6-2 against Everton and a couple of other good thrashings given out around that time and the 3-0 against Dortmund).

Then it went a flat, very flat and last week Poch conceded that we were out of the title race and that is where the dilemma comes in because even if the group is maturing and even if they are getting better as a squad as they spend more time together, I think the belief that they can win the league has gone. Unless we win the Champions league (a long shot that even I don’t really expect – though we have a chance!) then I don’t see how the same group of guys sitting in the locker room in August can believe that they can win the league. They will need to see a couple of new faces that they believe are upgrades on what we had this season or they will be defeated before they start.

Belief has been one of Poch’s mantras, ‘anything is possible in football if you believe’. I don’t I believe that, but I do believe that winning isn’t possible if you don’t believe. The players are not stupid. They have seen the evidence of how far short they are (not very far it is after all ‘fine margins’) and how much progress they have made and can easily figure out if the gap is too big to close next season. In my opinion they would have to ignore reality to believe they could win the league next year, they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. So unless of course Poch’s can work his magic (he’s magic you know) and make them believe the new stadium is equivalent to a new signing (which I suppose it might be, after all look how we dominated in our last season at the Lane).

I’m not buying that however, because I think something else has to change if we are to win it all so sticking is not an option this Summer. Even if a couple of players that are really only a small upgrade in standard compared to the ones we already have come in – then the ability to believe, to have hope will be restored.

If we don’t refresh at least a little, we may go backwards because I believe a part of what has propelled us forward and had us punching above our weight is the very same belief that Poch instilled in this group a couple of years ago. Without that belief then that little bit of extra effort to grab a late winner might dissipate and we could be right back to mid table obscurity.

Author: Flat Oeuf

A blog dedicated to aficionados of the chicken badge of Tottenham Hotspur FC, unashamedly revelling in the agony and ecstasy of every moment of every game....no matter who finds themselves fortunate enough, in any given season, to be the stewards, manager or players of the best club in the world. COYFS!

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TCY
TCY
3 years ago

Can’t see how we f*ck this one up. Life is a learning experience nevertheless. Don’t think I can watch. . . .

Chauvelin
Chauvelin
3 years ago

Maths? Math?

I’ll just say ‘you do the sum, sorry, sums’.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
3 years ago

Sonny getting his 4th CL goal against Dortmund would suit me fine.

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Ronwol196061

Are they bruvvers?
Really it doesn’t add up

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
3 years ago

SpurAndy 🥧🍒 05/03/2019 at 5:06 pm
*maths

Him either.

Ronwol196061
Ronwol196061
3 years ago

We need to attack for the first half an hour.. Keep the wolf away from the door… Its wot Poch we do I’m sure!

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
3 years ago

SeattleSpursGuy

We get one, they need five. Math favors us.

Math isn’t playing of course.

*maths

Fatty B
Fatty B
3 years ago

SpurAndy 🥧🍒 05/03/2019 at 5:01 pm
Fatty B

I shan’t be in attendance ce soir, mes amis. I’ve an exam tomorrow, huzzah.

Shame FatiBer, hope all goes well tomoz.

Cheers, bruv. I ain’t sweat’n’it.

Fatty B
Fatty B
3 years ago

SpurAndy 🥧🍒 05/03/2019 at 5:01 pm
They’ve fallen off a cliff recently. Only won one match in their last 7 since Jan.

Was it the Reichenbach Falls?

Fatty B
Fatty B
3 years ago

SeattleSpursGuy 05/03/2019 at 4:57 pm
We get one, they need five. Math favors us.
Math isn’t playing of course.

Johnny Math-is.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
3 years ago

Fatty B

I shan’t be in attendance ce soir, mes amis. I’ve an exam tomorrow, huzzah.

Shame FatiBer, hope all goes well tomoz.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
3 years ago

They’ve fallen off a cliff recently. Only won one match in their last 7 since Jan.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
3 years ago

We get one, they need five. Math favors us.

Math isn’t playing of course.

cavey
cavey
3 years ago

I’m nervous and we’re 3-0 up. FFS. COYS.

cavey
cavey
3 years ago

Wonder whether or not Dortmund will come out all guns blazing tonight. We will kill them off on the counter attack if they do. Like to see Sonny get a goal tonight!

Hartley
Hartley
3 years ago

Flat Oeuf

Flat Oeuf
I’ve tried 3 other Comments plugins and none of them works that well yet.
It’s a facky windup and no mistake.

Well it’ll do for now but there must be a more recent Plugin that works well, even if it looks different.

Glade do one, and it smells nice too.

Fatty B
Fatty B
3 years ago

I shan’t be in attendance ce soir, mes amis. I’ve an exam tomorrow, huzzah.

Fatty B
Fatty B
3 years ago

Flat Oeuf 05/03/2019 at 4:10 pm
Thanks all for your kind words. And Fatty B for his ample charm.

Did the WordPress framework udate rendering the comments plugin out of date? Could we ‘roll back’ to an earlier WordPress?

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
3 years ago

Flat Oeuf

I’ve tried 3 other Comments plugins and none of them works that well yet.

It’s a facky windup and no mistake.

Coincidence that it’s occurred at the same time Tottenham’s form has dropped? I think not, I detect some sort of machavelean conspiracy 🔍

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
3 years ago

Flatty, we appreciate your efforts to make this work.

Fatty B
Fatty B
3 years ago

Flat Oeuf 05/03/2019 at 4:01 pm
I’ve tried 3 other Comments plugins and none of them works that well yet.

It’s a facky windup and no mistake.

I did all that t’other night. The upshot is that no quoting/replying is the way forward.

Address reply to comment author. Simples.

Fatty B
Fatty B
3 years ago

SeattleSpursGuy 05/03/2019 at 3:56 pm
So I take it the test bloeug crashed and burned?

Flatty’s ‘purging’ us.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
3 years ago

And I see I have a reply button on my post but everyone else just has quote.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
3 years ago

So I take it the test bloeug crashed and burned?

Chauvelin
Chauvelin
3 years ago

McG, it’s where we are now.

You remind me of the joke of the man who stops for directions, who received this helpful reply: “If I was you sir, I wouldn’t start from here…”

McG ⚽⚽
McG ⚽⚽
3 years ago

Chauvelin 05/03/2019 at 3:17 pm

Dembele had some great games for Spurs (and Fulham) but come on, when did he last reach a good level of performance? He was clearly struggling last season and this season was a write off. We have to move on and rebuild central midfield around Winky and Sissy and Dier, looking for another to join them. Skipp is very young and might replace Sissy eventually; Doucouré is a possibility.

Build a team around these three muppets??! Even Winks is failing to dominate games. Average players with Winks being well above average. That’s one scary thought Chauv!

Chauvelin
Chauvelin
3 years ago

Fatty B
I like the Test Bloeug – more please.

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Chauvelin

Dembele had some great games for Spurs (and Fulham) but come on, when did he last reach a good level of performance? He was clearly struggling last season and this season was a write off. We have to move on and rebuild central midfield around Winky and Sissy and Dier, looking for another to join them. Skipp is very young and might replace Sissy eventually; Doucouré is a possibility.

Fatty B
Fatty B
3 years ago

I like the Test Bloeug – more please.

Chauvelin
Chauvelin
3 years ago

Always at your service Merrance! 😘

merrance
merrance
3 years ago

Are you trying to press my button Chauvey?You are awful,but I like you

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
3 years ago

merrance

Lots of tawk about why we have gone off the boil and failed to step up a notch.its to do with most of the factors mentioned but one crucial piece not mentioned is that we sold our big hearted middleman.Dembers/ he used to destroy the heart of the oppo and wear them out the engine was purring when he played and he dictated that no one shall pass.I know his shortcomings but the fact is other teams are braver against us without him in our side/ God I miss his twist and turns amongst 3 or 4 players and emerging with the ball still at his feet.I believe the players miss him too.A giant in our midst,a destroyer of other teams plans.How comes Levy never cloned him.

Agree with that, a fit Dembele was oresum to behold. I think we miss him.

Funkenschlag!
Admin
3 years ago

Just getting in da mood for a faky bike ride with some nice motivating grooves. 🎵🙌

89Spurs
89Spurs
3 years ago

I’ve not refreshed anything, but will see what happens?

Chauvelin
Chauvelin
3 years ago

When I refresh manually, Merrance’s reply button is replaced by the quote button, so it seems reply only appears when the page auto refreshes. But doesn’t function.

Chauvelin
Chauvelin
3 years ago

FYI, I can see a reply button on Merrance’s comment (no quote button) but clicking on it takes me out of this page to the home page. On all the previous comments no reply button showing, instead the quote button.

merrance
merrance
3 years ago

Lots of tawk about why we have gone off the boil and failed to step up a notch.its to do with most of the factors mentioned but one crucial piece not mentioned is that we sold our big hearted middleman.Dembers/ he used to destroy the heart of the oppo and wear them out the engine was purring when he played and he dictated that no one shall pass.I know his shortcomings but the fact is other teams are braver against us without him in our side/ God I miss his twist and turns amongst 3 or 4 players and emerging with the ball still at his feet.I believe the players miss him too.A giant in our midst,a destroyer of other teams plans.How comes Levy never cloned him.

Chauvelin
Chauvelin
3 years ago

Chiz indeed. Your effarts are appreciated Mr Flat.
More power to your elbow.

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SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
3 years ago

This only seems to show ‘new’ comments or ‘older’ with a link to switch. Doesn’t show all on one page?

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
3 years ago

Bottom

Funkenschlag!
Admin
3 years ago

#verydisappointedIwon’tbestuufingmyfacewithandy’sblackforestgateaucakeemojiface

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
3 years ago

Alas no Cas, baking only allowed at the weekend, it’s in my contract.

Funkenschlag!
Admin
3 years ago

Will you be baking something nice ferrous all today r’Andy?

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
3 years ago

Enjoy Mon Frere, seizure at the Flying 🐴.

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