Spurs, Salford and ABU

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They say you should always support your home town team. I do, and it’s Salford Red Devils, the local  professional rugby league team.

However, when it comes to supporting my local football team, I decided to take a road less-travelled for northerners and began supporting the mighty Spurs instead of Manchester United, who were situated no more than three miles down the road from where I was born and raised.

As an 8-year old in the pre-mass sports media age, I admit to having no knowledge of any other football team than Man Utd before the FA Cup 4th round results were read out on the radio one Saturday tea-time in February 1967. Utd were beaten surprisingly 2-1 at home by second division Norwich City that day and I now needed a new team to follow for the rest of the cup competition.

My dad suggested Tottenham Hotspur to me, apparently for no other reason than he’d been impressed by a certain Alf Ramsey, who he’d seen playing fullback for Spurs at Bolton Wanderers some years earlier.  By the time Spurs beat Chelsea 2-1 a few months later in the ‘67 Cup Final, I was a committed fan who spent hour upon hour scribbling the cockerel and ball logo on any available scrap paper or notebook, in the same way that I later tried perfecting my signature for my very first  cheque book.

My interest in football generally, and Spurs in particular, began when  there was no such thing as Sky Sports, social media, bloeugs, or even regular TV football for that matter! Consequently, I rarely saw Spurs on the telly and only got to read match reports when they played local teams. Things were so bad  I was often found scouring the ‘Manchester Football Pink’ on Saturday evenings for any random reference to my beloved club in obscure sections of the paper, such as readers’ questions, etc.

My actual first live football game was Manchester United versus Manchester City at Old Trafford in 1969. I remember City won 1-0, but my abiding memory is of standing next to some City fans who were discussing beating Spurs in the Cup Q/Final the previous weekend. As a Spurs-starved youngster, I hung on every word they had to say about the match and, more importantly, what they had to say about my team!

I can’t quite recall the first time I saw Spurs play, although it would have been at Old Trafford, and most probably we would have lost. I know for a fact, however, I was sitting in the Stretford End seats when George Best produced that sublime chip over Pat Jennings – in my direct line of vision – to record yet another win against us back in ‘71. For anyone not old enough to remember seeing it live, or on the Match of the Day opening sequences over the years, it can be viewed still on YouTube.

I do have vivid memories of my very first game at White Lane, which came in 1972, and once again involved my personal nemesis, Manchester United.

An older family friend booked us on the Inter-City Football Special, an innovative way of entertaining football fans going on big away games in the early ‘70s. In reality, it comprised no more than a cattle-truck added to the normal rolling stock, which meant that the travelling hooligans could enjoy drinking beer while being thrown about a designer-graffitied wagon with every twist and turn of the track, and every braking motion of the train. Great fun for some, I guess, but where on earth was the elf-n-safety??

The official pre-match entertainment was either forgettable or non-existent, but us Park Laners had a great laugh when a tall, gangly Utd fan dressed in denim jacket, half-mast denim jeans and obligatory bovver boots escaped from the Paxton Road and ran full-pelt towards our end. There was no way he could have got at us owing to the metal fence between us and the pitch, so instead he dived full-length, feet-first into the line of police waiting to apprehend him. How we all laughed. I bet the police had the last laugh, too, when they got him under the stand out of our view.

The match ended 1-1, with George Graham scoring for Utd and Martin Peters for us.

We bought fish and chips in a chippy in a small parade of shops near the ground after the game, and nearly missed the coach back to Euston station. I’ve often wondered where exactly the chippy was situated and I wonder if any of you guys can suggest where it might be. I very much doubt it was on the High Road, so maybe it was down a nearby side street.

As a teenager, my dad bought season tickets for my older brother and I at – yes, you’ve guessed it – Old Trafford.  I was a closet ABU fan, politely applauded ‘home’ goals while secretly willing on every visiting team. I can recall only one occasion when my mask slipped and, naturally, it occurred when Spurs came to town.  How could anyone be expected to sit on their hands as Martin Peters scored 1, then 2, then 3, and then a glorious 4th in a 4-1 demolition of the home team. The fans I sat with every second Saturday must have thought I’d taken leave of my senses, but I just couldn’t help myself.

My worst Man Utd related experience occurred on my younger brother’s stag day at Haydock races in 2001. As his best man, I was in charge of 27 Utd (and 1 City) fans on a day we were playing them at WHL.  As many of you will know, it started really well as we took a deserved 3-0 half-time lead. The 5 goal collapse in the second half turned the afternoon away from a focus on the horses to how can the life of the only available spurs fan be made as miserable as possible. To great cheers and merriment, the number of our hired corporation bus was changed to read ‘35’ for the return journey to Salford, and the misery continued well into the evening when even more Utd fans joined the stag party at a local pub. As a rabid Utd fan himself, my brother was more than happy to find more people seeking to speak to me rather than him at his special event!

I could go on, but I think I’ve said enough to convey how Manchester United are for me the mortal enemy, even more so than the Arse, the Chavs and the Spammers. As despicable as these London teams may be, they can never haunt me in the same way that Utd have done over the years.

Attending the 3-0 win at OT on the weekend of my 60th birthday in August provided some relief from regular family taunting, but we need another statement win on Sunday to continue putting their ‘bogey team’ status fully to bed.

In closing, they say that most people who switch football teams are nothing more than glory hunters.  Well, as all we Spurs fans know, the “Game is about Glory” and so I’m happy to admit to being guilty as charged!!

Comments
  • Ronwol196061 13/01/2019 at 6:59 pm

    We will need to buy to get into the CL
    We are light in MF
    and now Kane
    Verts Def not 100%

    • Matt 13/01/2019 at 7:02 pm

      Not sure we’d get anyone worth having now. At least we have a week off and relatively easy EPL games till Son is back. Time for Llorente to step up. Wonder if Sissoko injury means we’ll hold onto Moussa for a few weeks.

      • Caspurs 13/01/2019 at 7:05 pm

        Yep
        Yep
        Doubt it

        • Matt 13/01/2019 at 7:12 pm

          Dier for Sissoko then. Not a disaster.

  • Chauvelin 13/01/2019 at 7:11 pm

    Are we going to hold onto Llorente until the summer? Kane injury changes everything.

    • Chauvelin 13/01/2019 at 7:11 pm

      I was forgetting Janssen is fit…

      • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 13/01/2019 at 7:12 pm

        …but not in the squad.

        • Chauvelin 13/01/2019 at 7:37 pm

          Add him. We can make changes in January.

          • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 13/01/2019 at 7:40 pm

            Who would you take out?

            • UnkleTaff 13/01/2019 at 7:46 pm

              N’Koudou?

              • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 13/01/2019 at 7:52 pm

                S’pose.

    • Matt 13/01/2019 at 7:13 pm

      Even before the Kane injury I thought we should. He’s looked OK when he comes on.

  • cavey 13/01/2019 at 7:18 pm

    Thats the second game that Trippier has lost for us single handedly. The first was against Man City who also won 1-0. He’s not good enough for the position he plays.

  • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 13/01/2019 at 7:24 pm

    Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino to BBC Sport: “Tottenham did everything to win the game. Maybe we dominated and we created a lot of chances. It was an amazing second half, I am so pleased.

    “Sometimes you win a game and you are disappointed, like when we won 3-0 at Old Trafford. They were better than us that day. Today the result should be different and I am happy. That is the way that we want to grow and play. Taking risks, playing football that we are going to play. The team was fantastic, that is the best 45 minutes I have seen Tottenham play since I took charge.

    “There were 11 saves from De Gea who was outstanding. He fully deserved to be man of the match.

    “It was a clear foul on Harry Kane, a big hit, Mike Dean said he didn’t see it. Kane twisted his ankle and we hope that it is not a big issue.”

    Not sure it’s the best 45 but up there with em.

    • Ronwol196061 13/01/2019 at 7:27 pm

      We dominated the 2nd half that’s true.

      But what is that?

      Winners win

      • cavey 13/01/2019 at 7:29 pm

        We’ve lost seven now. That’s a lot in one season. Still, I think we’ll make top four.

        • Sexy Beast 13/01/2019 at 7:30 pm

          Six in the prem

          • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 13/01/2019 at 7:35 pm

            Four at “home”.

            • Sexy Beast 13/01/2019 at 7:38 pm

              It’s not home.

              • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 13/01/2019 at 7:44 pm

                Hence the quotes.

        • UnkleTaff 13/01/2019 at 7:33 pm

          I think we’ll make top three.

      • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 13/01/2019 at 7:30 pm

        Yep winning like we did at their gaff and against Chelski Tuesday.

        • Ronwol196061 13/01/2019 at 7:33 pm

          It’s a critical point
          We had tbe chances but failed to take tbem

        • Ronwol196061 13/01/2019 at 7:37 pm

          We threw everything at them because we had to. Verts unfit, Sissoko injured. We had the chances but failed to take them.
          De Gea saved a lot but very few were what I would call spectacular or game saving… Most were right at him. Or not hard enough

    • Wasdanspurs 13/01/2019 at 8:21 pm

      I was thinking we probably played better second half than we played at Old Trafford. Sure we’ve played better under poch but like how he is often positive in public after a defeat like that. Much prefer it to, say, recent mourinho

      • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 13/01/2019 at 8:32 pm

        At the time I didn’t really understand why he wasn’t happy with our win at OT. Now after today’s performance it didn’t surprise me that he made those and these comments. I think the manner of the performance is as, if not more important than the result in his mind. If the roles had been reversed today I’m not sure he’d have been as happy as we would be by a win.
        At least you didn’t have to jump out of your seat if we’d scored today Dan, small mercies, eh? 😁

        • Wasdanspurs 13/01/2019 at 8:59 pm

          Oh I did… For a disallowed goal… Once the game got going I did start to acclimatise and feel a little better. Crap result but a tense and, in spells, exciting game to watch. Around the hour mark I really felt we were going to turn it around.

  • TCY 13/01/2019 at 7:35 pm

    Yes. MU was clinical when they had to be. We weren’t. Sorry today it butthe team is too thin. Bringing Fernando on is never a winning move. His last pass past HK proves the point every day.

    • Chauvelin 13/01/2019 at 7:40 pm

      He’s excellent with his head. Maybe should have been on earlier to get to the rhythm of the match?

  • Sexy Beast 13/01/2019 at 7:42 pm

    Right lads anyone who can play up front fancy a spot on the bench for Fulham away next week, Kane will be out 4/5 weeks at least s with that ankle? Put you hands up if you’re under 40.

    • Northern Spur 13/01/2019 at 8:10 pm

      How far off are you..?

    • Fatty B 13/01/2019 at 8:58 pm

      ✋ Stone? Sorry, hand down again.

  • McG ⚽⚽ 13/01/2019 at 7:56 pm

    Sooner we move Trips & Davies on the better, they not league winning or CL standard when it comes to defending or pace. Played well in the end, shame about our shooting boots..

  • Chauvelin 13/01/2019 at 8:41 pm

    Ten matches against the other 5 top teams. So far, we’ve won 2, Chelsea H, ManU A.
    Lost 4, home to Pool, Citeh, United. Away to Arse.

    This leaves 3 away games with Chelscum, Pooh, Citeh and 1 home game with Arsenil.

    After today, third place looks increasingly likely to hinge on not losing to Chelscum. It’s us or the racists in cup and league.

  • mystic arnold 13/01/2019 at 8:43 pm

    Just got back to Hounslow from Wembley..how biased was the sky coverage today

    • Fatty B 13/01/2019 at 8:59 pm

      It ain’t nothing like a Hounslow.

    • Ronwol196061 13/01/2019 at 9:09 pm

      I waz biased!

  • HD 🇺🇸 13/01/2019 at 9:14 pm

    Plenty of concern upcoming. Son gone for a while, Kane potential right ankle ligament issues. Things could get dicey.

    • McG ⚽⚽ 13/01/2019 at 9:47 pm

      Might force Levy’s hand with a bit of luck

  • Merrance 13/01/2019 at 9:39 pm

    We couldnt get past de gea or mike dean today.dean is a manc anyway

    • Paleo 13/01/2019 at 10:19 pm

      Dean is the worst ref we can have,he’s hell bent on showing he doesn’t favour us after the video seemingly showing him celebrating a Tottenham goal

      • Chauvelin 13/01/2019 at 10:42 pm

        Yes, that is becoming obvious after recent games. He’ll never give us the benefit of the doubt and therefore decisions will break 60/40 against us at best.

  • Bruxie 13/01/2019 at 10:32 pm

    Davies.
    He doesn’t even try to beat a man.
    It’s like playing with 10 men.

    • Caspurs 13/01/2019 at 10:39 pm

      TIERNEY!!!!!

      • Chauvelin 13/01/2019 at 10:44 pm

        Beautiful Gene Tierney, movie star

    • Chauvelin 13/01/2019 at 11:02 pm

      No effective support to Son, no overlaps, left him on his own against two defenders most times.

  • Merrance 13/01/2019 at 10:40 pm

    Was the only yid in a bar in florida.they only good bit was clapping and cheering when kane got the ball in the back of the net only to be given offside.at least i shut them up for a few seconds.doubt if any of them have ever been to old trafford.let alone seen charlton best stiles etc.

    • Wasdanspurs 13/01/2019 at 11:23 pm

      Don’t think many in the away end have ever been past Watford…

  • Paleo 13/01/2019 at 10:42 pm

    On a happier note,the baked olives were a triumph

    • Merrance 13/01/2019 at 10:44 pm

      I had a full english anything to annoy treasonus may

      • Caspurs 13/01/2019 at 10:47 pm

        I’m sure she’s very very annoyed.

        • Chauvelin 13/01/2019 at 11:00 pm

          I’m sure she’s very very f*#£&d and desperate to think of a way forward.

      • Ronwol196061 13/01/2019 at 11:05 pm

        Where did the escargot go?

        • Merrance 13/01/2019 at 11:49 pm

          I think you snailed it ronwol

  • Merrance 13/01/2019 at 10:51 pm

    Glad you think so

    • Merrance 13/01/2019 at 10:56 pm

      Any way it was a very nice brexit

      • Chauvelin 13/01/2019 at 10:59 pm

        Did I miss it?

      • Ronwol196061 13/01/2019 at 11:04 pm

        I’m more concerned about Totxic

        • Chauvelin 13/01/2019 at 11:20 pm

          16 matches left. 32 points should secure top four with 80 pts). That’s 2 pts per game average required. Doable.

  • mystic arnold 14/01/2019 at 8:29 am

    I expect the bloke on a certain blog will today claim that Harry Kane has been humainley destroyed

  • Bruxie 14/01/2019 at 9:07 am

    I’m beginning to get boring in my criticism of Davies…

    But.

    As Chauv said above, he doesn’t support Son or whoever is playing in front of him.
    He doesn’t attempt to go past a man and I wonder whether or not this due to instructions from a manager who doesn’t trust him, or his own lack of confidence.
    Yesterday he crossed the halfway line and just stood there. Several times. And then he was left up in no-man’s land for their goal when Tripps gave the ball away.
    He does my head in.

    Granted he is an outlet on the left – sometimes – but yesterday I got the distinct impression that his team mates don’t really trust him. Verts would rather pass diagonally than play a simple ball to create an attack on the left. Experience has obviously told him that the ball to Davies will only come back to him to start again. That used to be Toby’s job when Rose and Walker were in their pomp. Now that Davies is in Rose’s place, everything has gone awry.

    Cas is correct. Get Tierney. Or Chilcot. Anyone but the liability that is Davies.

    • Caspurs 14/01/2019 at 10:08 am

      Well said Bruxie, speshly the first 5 words in the last paragraph.
      👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

      • Caspurs 14/01/2019 at 10:14 am

        PS: I wouldn’t be overly dismayed if Trippier were replaced either.

        • Bruxie 14/01/2019 at 10:26 am

          I haven’t got to Tripps yet.

          • Caspurs 14/01/2019 at 10:31 am

            In the case of THFC v Trippier
            Exhibit A..

          • 89Spurs 👁 14/01/2019 at 11:28 am

            Well someone has?

    • McG ⚽⚽ 14/01/2019 at 10:45 am

      Soon as I saw the side yesterday I figured we’d struggle with no pace at full back. What on earth has Davies done recently to deserve a place ahead of Rose?? Especially against Man U. Also hoped Aurier would get the nod, well & truly had enough of Tripps brainfarts or getting skinned. We played some great footie yesterday 2nd half, Poch will at least have been given some food for thought. Wink’s shooting was shite too while I’m at it, there were better options, got a fair bit to learn.

  • Sexy Beast 14/01/2019 at 11:37 am

    On another day we would have won that game with a bit to spare, I don’t understand all the sniping against Tripps and Davies who was clearly playing in a three second half so would not have been required to get past the halfway line. Tripps is a top class wingback but doesn’t have the speed to be a top fullback against better quality opposition.

    • Bruxie 14/01/2019 at 12:43 pm

      Back 3?

      I didn’t see it that way.

  • 89Spurs 👁 14/01/2019 at 11:38 am

    Come on Fatts, just because I’m out of the country, what’s with the morderation?

  • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 14/01/2019 at 11:59 am

    I always go back to our main players,you know the World Class ones.

    Kane was too slow (maybe tired)
    Eriksen did not add too much
    ,apart from a flick here and there
    Dele was our best player
    Toby was steady as any
    Verts looked not fit throughout including Rashfords goal
    Lloris played ok,maybe could have done better on the goal but it was almost like a penalty shot
    One of Sons weakest games,also probably tired

    Winks played well apart from his shooting (he is a DM)
    Wing backs cannot be in two places at once (this is a tactical problem brought about by stray passing,the defence all left the unfit Verts alone)

    United didnt have that many dangerous shots,so surely its not all Trippiers fault. We had a ton of the ball in the second half. I cant blame De Gea’s quality either. The main point I think was our total impotency when it came to shooting. With all the ball control in the 2nd half….we are going for the title they’ve got to get the job done.
    To me with all the shots we took,we never really looked like scoring.

  • cavey 14/01/2019 at 12:05 pm

    Had Dele lobbed the keeper like he did at Arsenal he would have scored. I agree our shooting was weak. On another we would have won 3 or 4 – 1

    • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 14/01/2019 at 12:08 pm

      That shot vrs Arse was sublime. He could of maybe,his position was different,in that game he came in from the left with his right foot,this one it was on the right also with his right foot I beleive,its a bit different.Still he played very well compared with the others.

  • cavey 14/01/2019 at 12:07 pm

    Another thing, I was worried when Sissoko went off as he was the bouncer in the midfield, but when he went off we started playing much better football.

    • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 14/01/2019 at 12:12 pm

      Cavey thats seems right but because Sissoko went off,we replaced him with Lamela I believe Poch went for it with all our AM’s and forwards etc. Verts was far from 100% and we were very light in Mid but I guess Poch thought he had no choice. We pushed our numbers forward. It didnt work though,it just kept the wolf away from our own goal.

      • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 14/01/2019 at 12:13 pm

        His idea worked.But we couldnt score etc

  • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 14/01/2019 at 12:24 pm

    On the series front. True Detective III first two episodes were on last night. Excellent acting,slow but great quality.
    Watching Knightfall as well…not great great but its good
    and this seasons Vikings is back to being great

  • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 14/01/2019 at 12:28 pm

    AS to Bruxies post above Rose is much better than Davies and getting stronger every game. Not sure why Poch would pick Davies,he is very mediocre

    • UnkleTaff 14/01/2019 at 1:21 pm

      Not sure whether Pogba got booked for this challenge or for kicking the ball away afterwards. He can consider himself very lucky indeed that he wasn’t sent off for it.

      • 61 Spurs Nut🌰 14/01/2019 at 1:25 pm

        But that would have upset the meticulously crafted OGS fairy tale.

    • UnkleTaff 14/01/2019 at 2:42 pm

      “I think yellow card. He goes to win the ball with the other foot, he has taken a step to go over it, he does go over the ball and he catches him on the back of the thigh. It is reckless, but he genuinely goes to play the ball.”
      Dermot Gallagher

      “…he genuinely goes to play the ball”

      Dermot, he’s nowhere near the f*cking thing.

  • UnkleTaff 14/01/2019 at 1:45 pm

    Did anyone see Jones’s ‘tackle’ on Kane at the end of the game?

    • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 14/01/2019 at 2:29 pm

      Thankfully I didn’t and definitely sure I never want to see Jones’s ‘tackle’.

    • Ronwol196061 14/01/2019 at 3:03 pm

      Missed that
      But then again Kane missed a few too

  • SpurAndy 🥧🍒 14/01/2019 at 3:14 pm
  • McG ⚽⚽ 14/01/2019 at 3:46 pm

    Verts being deemed ‘not fit’ cos he couldn’t keep up with Rashford after being stitched by Tripp’s?? Not sure I agree, his pace would never match Rashford’s, even if he were 22 years old!

    https://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/fixtures-results/tottenham-player-ratings-kieran-trippier-15672160

    • Ronwol196061 14/01/2019 at 4:00 pm

      He definately didn’t look 100% to me

      • Caspurs 14/01/2019 at 4:04 pm

        I believe he was suffering from a case of hydrated iron oxides Fe2O3.

    • Ronwol196061 14/01/2019 at 4:05 pm

      I don’t rate the ratings though

      Dele 7
      Winks 8
      Eriksen 7
      Sissoko 6
      Something wrong there

      • Ronwol196061 14/01/2019 at 4:08 pm

        Thought Winks was a 7
        Eriksen a 6
        Dele a 8
        Sissoko 7. 5
        Kane 6
        Trippier 5
        Davies 5.5
        Son 6

  • Caspurs 14/01/2019 at 3:54 pm

    I shall inflict upon you lot, yes you lot with great wrath, my latest maniacal ramblings, unless anyone should object. Speak now, or forever shutya cake’ols….

    • 61 Spurs Nut 🌰 14/01/2019 at 3:56 pm

      *Gulp!*

    • Ronwol196061 14/01/2019 at 4:01 pm

      AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

      (I just found out we lost to Man U)

    • Wasdanspurs 14/01/2019 at 4:58 pm

      Do it! Do it now!! 👍

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