Scout, Scout, Let it all out…

…these are the players we could do without.

It’s all very well talking about this summer’s transfers, but what about the way we’re deciding who to go for?

My (admittedly limited) attention has turned to scouting and how we go about it. I was reading an article and it said at the end “blah blah blah Steve Hitchen’s extensive knowledge of Ligue 1.” My blood ran a little cold. I thought back to Stambouli, N’Jie, N’Cluedo, Aurier. Then I dug a bit deeper and discovered Steve only joined us in Feb 2017, so Stambo and Clint and Kevin-Georges (?!) didn’t apply. But Serge and Lucas Moura came under his watch. Time will tell about those two.

Nonetheless, I asked myself: Who has been responsible for the duff ones during Poch’s reign and have they learned their lesson (or been moved on)?

Please don’t mistake this as some unbalanced “We’re shit at transfers” rant. Eric Dier, Dele Alli, Toby have all been big success stories. Then there are others who’ve been perfectly adequate or better: Son, Trippier, Davies, Wanyama, Davinson.

But then you look at Janssen, Llorente, Fazio, Sissoko. Mistakes have been made. Maybe no more than any other club, but it would be good to try and improve all the same, wouldn’t it?

My take on who’s culpable for the fuck ups? Everyone.

Lewis for being a tight arse and not investing a little more

Levy for penny pinching during deals and missing out

Paul Mitchell for being totally overrated

Poch for choosing/accepting players that have turned out to be duds

Rebecca Caplethorne, Director of Football Operations, because apparently she’s in the room too.

(Steve Hitchens is on notice because of Serge)

We need a good window, lady and gentlemen of The Committee.

Sort it out.

Author: Flat Oeuf

A blog dedicated to aficionados of the chicken badge of Tottenham Hotspur FC, unashamedly revelling in the agony and ecstasy of every moment of every game....no matter who finds themselves fortunate enough, in any given season, to be the stewards, manager or players of the best club in the world. COYFS!

Comments
  • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 9:39 am

    We all have our own idea of the type of players we’d like to see signed, and I’m no different. Poch likes his teams to play skilful possession based football, so why (my opinion) have we seen the likes of Sissoko, the N’s, Janssen and Aurier recruited? Do/did they have the requisite skill to enhance the team? No. We are not privy to the inner workings of how the club determine which potential targets to go for, but it doesn’t feel as though they are chosen purely on the basis of ability. I understand the need for a financially well run club, but that shouldn’t prohibit the club from acquiring players more suitable (better skill) to our style of play.
    This transfer window has a sense of being a far more important than previous windows, so time will tell whether we stand still or move on.

    • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 10:47 am

      Post below was a reply to you, Cas.

  • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 9:52 am

    One thing we hear over and over is that players are surprised by the pace of the PL and take time to get used to it. Moura was the latest ‘I need to make a decision (on what to do with he ball) in one second’ was the gist of what he said ‘and that’s good for me’. You can see that he has a great touch and so can buy himself the time he needs.

    Other players we have recruited seem to want a lot of time and space to be able to perform. You watch the inevitable Youtube highlights and see some of the best of them, but there are also usually clues in there as to how close to losing the ball they get, regularly. Then you’ve got to think: are they going to be able to do all of that fancy stuff in half the time, or less? And with an end product?

  • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 10:43 am

    Steve Hitchen is actually on his second spell with the club. First time round he was (apparently) hugely instrumental in the signing of Luka Modric.

    Then, when Damien Comolli left the club, he took Hitchen to Liverpool with him (something Redknapp was reportedly very unhappy with) where Hitchen played a big part in the recruitment of Luis Suarez.

    Now you may well say that neither Modric not Suarez required a great deal of talent to spot, but from what I’ve read Hitchen spent a great deal of time scouting them and made a very strong case for their respective acquisitions — something that other scouts clearly didn’t do (or didn’t do well enough).

    Aurier is already looking like a lost cause (everyone’s allowed the odd mistake), but so far, on the evidence available, Moura looks a very promising prospect indeed.

    • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 10:46 am

      Yes, I’m aware of Hitch’s pedigree and am certainly not dismissive of his influence of those two acquisitions…so my post is not calling him out. As you say, mistakes can be made, and are at every single club.

      • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 10:49 am

        I wasn’t trying to suggest you were being dismissive (I wasn’t sure if you knew of his history).

        Sorry if it came across that way.

        • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 11:03 am

          No prob, Taff. I guess I want this place to be able to constructively criticise any aspect of our Club. Today, I did that with some mildly sensationalist shorthand to add a little spice. I’m totally ok with all of us not having to tiptoe around each other too much.

  • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 10:44 am

    I don’t in any way get hung up about transfers that have been. Transfers are a lottery, a roll of the dice, especially for a club like us who aren’t in a position to just buy the best, but even for those clubs with the most financial muscle.
    Hindsight is a great thing. We know how good/bad our signings have been because we can see it, but there is no easy solution. And as above, it isn’t always about the money.
    Did anyone know that Dele would come good in the prem, and see our 5mil investment turn into a player worth easily over 100mil within a year or so?
    Did anyone know that the 60mil purchase of Di Maria to Manure would see him have a terrible season, then be sold for a 15mil loss just a year later?
    Did anyone predict that the 450k Mahrez and 6.5mil Kante signings would effectively win Leicester the PL?
    How about Torres to Chelsea? 65 goals in 102 league appearances for Poo, then a 50mil transfer to Chelsea, 110 games later and he only has 20 goals.

    As a club that can’t compete with the wages, transfer fees and history of those around us, we do sometimes have to take punts, mostly because I would assume that our 1st/2nd/3rd choices go elsewhere. If anyone thinks we can overcome this issue, I’d like to know how!
    I’d happily have 3 players like Stambouli that didn’t work out, if it mean’t we got one Eric Dier. No problem that Janssen and the N’s are shite, because Dele more than makes up for it.

    I’m sorry Flatster, for me there is nothing for anyone to be blamed for, nor any wholesale change of direction that we need to take.

    • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 10:55 am

      I agree that our recent transfer successes outweigh our failures in respect of value. With Dier and Dele bought for £10m combined, how could we not see it that way?

      What I’m pointing to is that we can improve and we absolutely need to, with a tighter budget than that of our nearest rivals to compete with. I’d be worried if the Transfer Committee were sitting on their laurels thinking they’d ‘got it right on balance’. We need them to strive for excellence. And as you say, it’s not necessarily about money spent. 40m on Davinson looks like money very well spent to me. 17m on Janssen look like a total waste.

      My contention is that we need to do better (not more), starting this summer.

      • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 10:57 am

        How can we improve?

        • McG ⚽⚽ 07/06/2018 at 11:06 am

          I would say we’re now in a position where less is more. Less punts & more quality, 3 top end players as opposed to two decent players & 3 punts. I think that’s what Poch has asked for as it goes! Find out soon enough…

          • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 11:12 am

            But that’s my point, McG. Torres and Di Maria were quality, Andy Carroll signed for Liverpool having just scored 11 goals in 19 appearances for Newcastle, We signed Llorente after he had scored 15 league goals in 33 appearances. Negredo was the next big thing when the ManC’s bought him.

            • McG ⚽⚽ 07/06/2018 at 11:21 am

              you can have three 15 mil punts, or one 45mil punt, nothing’s guaranteed but you’d hope the 45mil punt had a better chance of making it. Poch has to buy players now that he thinks will walk straight into the side, not the likes of NG, NK or Sissy. Levy, Poch, Hitch all have to work to achieve that.

              • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 1:01 pm

                For sure G, spending more would hopefully be more of a guarantee of success. But in the current market, even 45mil could be a punt. Take Davinson as an example, a youngster with only one year of European football in a pretty shite league behind him before we splashed 40 odd mil. Was that guaranteed success, or a bit of a punt? And talk of De Ligt, 18 years old, hardly any experience, and from the sounds of it, a 55mil price tag at the very least.

              • McG ⚽⚽ 07/06/2018 at 1:37 pm

                Would def be a punt, but 5 international caps already suggests he’s an educated guess for that price!

                • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 1:44 pm

                  Agreed.
                  Vincent Janssen had 5 international caps when we bought him, and 3 international goals. And was the top scorer in the Dutch league.
                  Yet he’s very much in the “dud” group when considering our transfers.

                  • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 1:44 pm

                    * by some!

                    • McG ⚽⚽ 07/06/2018 at 2:05 pm

                      I thought it was a shame things didn’t pan out for Janssen, another punt tho. At least Martial is prem league proven. You could argue that any purchases with no prem or championship experience are going to be a punt as it goes (unless you’re talking the Pele’s of this world).

        • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 11:08 am

          I think we have to be more clever with our recruitment.

          By now, it’s very clear that Poch has us playing a certain way yet we buy Llorente and then don’t play to his strengths when we’re using him as a Plan B.

          We have 4 CMs (Dier, Wanyama, Sissoko, Dembele) but none of them is a more creative playmaker (albeit he would need to be energetic and robust too).

          All the flops that have been mentioned have been punts or last minute bargains. We need to spend that money better.

          I know these quality players aren’t easy to find and buy, but I still think we can improve on what we’e done to date by investing smarter and in a more targeted way.

          • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 11:19 am

            With respect, Flatster, “investing smarter and in a more targeted way” doesn’t really answer my question. Buying Llorente, a player with massive experience across most major European leagues, a proven goalscorer in those leagues and ours (15 goals for the swans before he came to us) as a back up striker looked like excellent business at the time, a smart investment, but has proven not so.
            I’ve no doubt that we do “target” exactly what we need and what Poch wants. But targeting and actually managing to recruit those players are altogether different things.

            • Anonymous 07/06/2018 at 11:30 am

              I agree that Llorente looked a good investment at the time, I said so plenty. My point is what happened after that: Poch did not play to his strengths, or give him enough minutes, or change the formation and provide the ammunition to enable him to be the 10-15 goal back-up striker that we needed. So, the recruitment was flawed because it wasn’t done with enough of a plan in place as to how we would use the player. That is what I mean when I say recruit smarter. Don’t buy a player just because he’s done well somewhere else. Buy him because we have a plan to integrate him successfully into our strategy for the season.

              Di Maria started great and then Van Gaal started playing him out of position. Torres was asked to play a different role at Chelski. Carroll at Liverpool too.

              • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 11:31 am

                That’s me on a different device, ffs

                • McG ⚽⚽ 07/06/2018 at 11:32 am

                  Quit yo Jibber-jabber!

              • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 1:20 pm

                Apologies again, but I can’t agree with any of that either.
                Llorente was purchased as plan C at best, Kane being A and Son B. He didn’t play many minutes because we didn’t need him to, he wasn’t/isn’t as good as the other options we have. To change our formation and philosophy to accommodate a 3rd choice striker makes no sense. He filled a gap, and only made a few appearances accordingly.
                I can understand the thought that we should have bought someone better who could challenge Son and Kane, rather than Llorente, but that opens up a whole new can of worms. What ready-to-go, proven striker would come to Spurs when:
                A) There’s virtually no chance of playing INSTEAD of Kane for probably many years to come
                B) The system that Poch plays does not allow for 2 up front
                C) We don’t pay as much in wages as other clubs

                Poch has publicly stated that Morata didn’t want to come to Spurs becuase he would have to compete with Kane.
                Batshuayi, who it seems we were extremely interested in, didn’t come to Spurs, no doubt due to Kane + wages + trophy history.
                Mane chose Liverpool over us, even though he had a close relationship with Poch. No doubt for the same reasons as Morata.

                • Anonymous 07/06/2018 at 1:59 pm

                  Well excuse me but I’m going to have to apologise right back at you because I don’t believe for a second that Llorente was intended as back up to Son, who was back up to Kane.

                  Son might be listed as a Striker, but I don’t believe he’s been seen as a like-for-like replacement for Kane when he’s injured or knackered. When we’ve played with Son, it’s been as a much more fluid Front 4. He doesn’t have the target-man attributes of Kane.

                  Llorente does, absolutely, but he’s not nearly mobile enough to do the pressing from the front that Poch’s usual system demands, which is one reason why Poch hasn’t given him more minutes imo, which brings me back to the fact that Poch made a mistake choosing him in the first place. Unless Poch was willing to properly train the team to shift our style of attack when Llorente was on the pitch, then he had no business picking him to play. Exactly the same goes for Janssen btw

                  That’s why I say we need to be smarter with our recruitment. The noise is that Poch is giving up on a No.9 replacement now. He wants an AM so that Son can play at the point of a Front 4 when HK is out…but we will certainly not be playing the exact same way that we do when HK is on the pitch. Or if we do, then it will point to an alarming level of insanity on Poch’s part.

                  • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 2:23 pm

                    Sorry Flatster, I don’t get what you are saying. What do you think Llorente was purchased for, if not plan C? Yes, Son isn’t a striker in a Kane sense, but if Kane is not available (plan A), then as you say we play a more fluid four with Son being the spearhead (plan B).
                    We didn’t really even get the opportunity to play Llorente, he started one league game. That’s because we didn’t need to, we had plan A and B for the majority of the season.
                    Llorente was 32 when we bought him. It wasn’t a purchase looking to the future, and I’ve no doubt Poch didn’t sanction his purchase thinking that he would start games with a different formation to suit him. He is a fill in, a striker with a proven goalscoring record that offered options on the bench, and very much a temporary measure in my opinion, because we couldn’t get a longer term solution.

                    • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 2:37 pm

                      Could you two at least do the rest of us the courtesy of hurling a few insults at each other?

                      Sheesh…

                    • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 2:45 pm

                      I see where there might be some information missing.

                      When talking about a Plan B, I am predominantly thinking of an ‘in-game’ different option…predominantly to defeat the fackin’ bus parkers who have successfully worked out that if they sit back far enough, we will pass it sideways ion front of them for long enough that we will eventually fall asleep, hand them an opportunity to Knick the ball and score against us on the counter.

                      To me, playing Son as the Striker means that we are still trying to play much the same way in the final 3rd…intricate passing trying to unlock a defence and also means we pass our way up the field inch by inch.

                      Fernando is a target man who can hold the ball up and bring runners from deep into play and is meant to be able to score a header or two, so that was the Plan B I was thinking of…

                    • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 2:54 pm

                      Ah, now I C what you mean by plan B. That’s A ok ;-D
                      Isn’t that what we did on several occasions, every occasion that Llorente came on as sub? But it didn’t work because he didn’t play well enough or put away his chances? I seem to remember him being found in good areas quite a lot, but not doing anything good with the ball?

  • 61SpursNut 07/06/2018 at 11:13 am

    I refuse to take any responsibilty for any of these fcuk ups.

  • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 07/06/2018 at 11:18 am

    Ahhh, twas all alone on the last bloeug and never thought to check for a new one. Where’s McG and his New blog>>> when you need him!

    • McG ⚽⚽ 07/06/2018 at 11:24 am

      At least H used to advertise his new blogs at the end of his old ones, poor show…

      • Anonymous 07/06/2018 at 11:30 am

        Haha, fair point

  • 61SpursNut 07/06/2018 at 11:20 am

    Anyone for T?

    • McG ⚽⚽ 07/06/2018 at 11:28 am

      Pity the fool…

      • 61SpursNut 07/06/2018 at 11:40 am

        O Dare you!

  • Ronwol1960-61 07/06/2018 at 11:36 am

    ‘Poch for choosing/accepting players that have turned out to be duds’

    I think there is one more important factor regarding Poch and that is, he is only about round holes.
    He has his esteemed system and doesn’t seem to accommodate any types of players that may not fit into it. Square pegs.
    That’s why they often got 3 minutes at the end of games and nobody took notice of them.

    Poch’s (Bielsa’s) system dictated the player didn’t have to be great,if he could would be a good cog in the wheel of the system,train like hell,run like the wind,have a robotic approach to positions and tackle all over the field and if they have happen to have a smidgen of creative talent it was a bonus.

    That’s why Sissoko bought the amount of time he had in the team relative to a NKoudoo. He ran,listened to the gaffer,played his heart out and got stuck in when he could. Talent? No need. It wasn’t a mistake. 30 Mil though for this type of player was a bit much. And I don’t think he played him in his best position but that didn’t matter. He did what the gaffer wanted from the off where Moura for instance still needed to sharpen up on his defence when we could see his vision and his ball talent was natural.

    Look I don’t blame Poch actually. Because it is about results. It was strange for me to accept and I havent fully accepted it as I prefer to watch a flow more like passing consisely unp the field rather than this pressing craziness but it is exciting when it works,it does allow space when the ball is turned over for these fast and quick runners and it does bring a dynamic to the game that is enjoyable when it works.

    • Ronwol1960-61 07/06/2018 at 11:43 am

      Addendum. Its not about Nkoudoo

    • Anonymous 07/06/2018 at 12:02 pm

      I think Poch is a little more tactically flexible than you give him credit for. We have switched formation from 4231 to 3 at the back and then back to 4231 out of necessity this season.

      Within that, we went form being almost entirely ‘possession -based’ at the beginning to Toby, then Dier and Sanchez hitting a longer ball. Rather than playing out from the back at all costs (when it’s clear that it’s not Hugo’s strength), we finally started see him clear his lines rather than create pressure for us unnnecessarily.

      I watch Poch on the sidelines. When we aware going back and sideways incessantly, I have seen him urging us to move the ball upfield quicker, rather than in yardage. He looks frustrated, like they’re not doing what he’s asked them, maybe taking the safer option. This is to do with personnel and their abilities too.

      Dele has also cut a frustrated figure this season, constantly making good runs but no-one trying to find him.

      • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 12:03 pm

        Me again, ffs

        • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 07/06/2018 at 12:07 pm

          Flat I still think that that pushing forward is more about the counter and quick passing,but the players seem to need to have all kinds of attributes (Sissoko is a case in point) but not those that have ball control.
          Why did Sissoko get a thousand times more time than Nkoudoo? Its because he was an all rounder and not just a ball player.
          NKOudoo had speed and ball control.It wasnt obviously enough.
          I am not talking about NKoudoo neccessarily but more about the style of a player

          • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 12:27 pm

            I hear what you’re saying about N’Koudou but I don’t think he was good enough. Moura looks much more the ticket.

            • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 07/06/2018 at 12:33 pm

              I agree but it was really about the style.And you can hear what Poch says about Moura.He has to work on his defensive game he has said. He never mentions expanding on his talent/
              For NKoudoo there was no hope. But I do think he did have talent and he was young but he wasnt what Poch wanted.

        • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 07/06/2018 at 12:09 pm

          Pochs team is built around the counter. Stop them and turn that forward with speed.
          The stop them was bigger than the turn that forward with speed for Poch

          • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 12:20 pm

            That’s incorrect Ron, we’re not a counter attacking team. Poch’s philosophy it to win the ball back in the opposition half, catching them out of position and exploiting that.

            • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 07/06/2018 at 12:29 pm

              The counter attack part is a misnomer in some ways.There is no such thing as a counter attack team. It only can counter if the other team attacks.
              So its a qualtion of the other team.
              The only point is the getting of the ball from the other team and turning it around quickly wherever it is. The emphasis is stopping the other team and gaining space through that rather than thinking more on the attacking side to begin with. Thats the way I see it

      • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 12:03 pm

        Who do you think you are?!

        • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 12:06 pm

          • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 12:10 pm

            That is really quite hypnotic…

  • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 07/06/2018 at 12:03 pm

    Id like us to go out and buy one great CM. I have harped on it a bit for the last few months because I think this is our greatest need.
    Yes we could do with another striker, (if our players would have been better at crossing and LLorente would have gotten games with them we would have done better) we could do with a real quality back (I can live with the ones we have if we got a real great CM) and we do need another CB if Toby is definately not staying (even 2 including a wise old one)

    But its the CM position is to me like a gaping hole that needs to be filled.

    Yes Dembele is a terrific player.Strong,extremely talented with his feet,guards to ball mostly advances it mostly but lacks the great vision that great players have. Without that he is one of the best as its the most difficult thing to find in a player always. But thats what Tottenham needs.Its what all great teams have.

    Eriksen has grown in the last year and a half leaps and bounds. He has started to actually take control instead of being a reactionary. Could he be a Modric. I think he could. But it does take great confidence and great control and a little edge to the defensive side (not much). Eriksens confidence has grown 10 fold.But he still can be a little, in his head, limited.
    Take corners and Free kicks for instance.There is no way that he doesnt have the talent to do those tasks better than most.He just has a mental block. This itself is about confidence and belief. Its negative. He can do it. But for some reason he doesnt.Thats why I dont have 100% faith in him although I believe in his talent 100%. He could get passed that though and play that Modric role.

    If not that then to get to the Holy Grail we do need a great CM. It would be so good if someone would arrive even Eriksen, to herald the new stadium.

  • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 12:09 pm

    “Dele has also cut a frustrated figure this season, constantly making good runs but no-one trying to find him.”

    Well if he could be bothered to turn up for more than 30 minutes a game I might have some sympathy for him.

    • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 12:28 pm

      Lazy bugger.

      • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 12:31 pm

        I’m Opta’mistic we’ll get 35 minutes per game out of him next year.

    • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 07/06/2018 at 12:31 pm

      I think his work ethic is fine and if I think back to the Poch system situation he is just a cog in that wheel.
      Id rather see him individually explosive every game but there is the system behind his game Im 100% convinced.Its not mindless running.

  • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 12:57 pm

    “I’d never say never to anything. You never know what is going to happen in football. I have still got a few years left on my contract. We have got a young team, a young manager, a new stadium, so it is a great place to be at the minute. All the players can see the way the club is heading. But you can’t look into the future too much as it takes the pleasure out of now.”
    Dele Alli

    And the (oh so predictable) headline?

    “Dele Alli refuses to rule out Tottenham exit…”

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/dele-alli-refuses-rule-out-12659560

    Sigh.

  • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 1:00 pm

    Jack Grealish is now odds-on with Betfair to be a Spud next season:

    https://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/jack-grealish/club-after-summer-transfer-window

    £40m seems a bit steep but I’d not say no to his acquisition. He looks to me like he could grow into just the sort of player we love at the club: an individual talent with no shortage of skill and flair.

    • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 1:02 pm

      I’d prefer James Maddison.

      • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 1:05 pm

        Madison might be the better player at the moment but I think Grealish’s potential ceiling is higher. Hopefully Josh Onomah said a lot of nice things about us when he was there.

        • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 1:50 pm

          Based on what?

          • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 2:12 pm

            Based on the assumption that Josh loves da Spurs?

          • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 2:36 pm

            Based on what I saw in him when he first came onto the scene a couple of years ago. The kid has raw, natural talent and for that type of player the sky is the limit if only they can apply themselves. In Grealish’s case it looked like he was about to go off the rails but he seems to have knuckled down last year and if that’s the case I see a great future ahead of him.

            Possibly at Tottenham.

            • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 3:02 pm

              I’d take Grealish and Maddison.

              • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 3:09 pm

                Yup. To replace the outgoing Eriksen and Alli.

                • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 3:15 pm

                  I’m not sure that’s what FoF had in mind… ; p

  • McG ⚽⚽ 07/06/2018 at 1:38 pm

    55 Million??!

    • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 2:17 pm

      If he’s the real deal then so be it.

    • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 3:17 pm

      Is this a famous person or just some random woman?

      • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 3:25 pm

        I believe it’s a play on words regarding a certain young Dutch defender, as she went under the name ‘Deee lite’.

        • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 3:27 pm

          Ah. So just some random woman, then.

          Cheers.

          • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 3:31 pm

            She was a one hit wonder in 1990.

  • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 2:43 pm

    Quite the transformation, and all done in 12 months.
    It doubt this will deter the doubters from doubting…

    • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 2:45 pm

      Quite remarkable, really.

      Such a shame it’s going to be so shit.

      • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 2:52 pm

        Shit?! How very rude. It’s ideal for hosting NFL games and live concerts, what else is there?

        • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 2:55 pm

          Changing tack slightly, much fun is made across the road of the ‘cheese room’, but does anyone have some relevant unbiased information about this part of the project? If, indeed, it even exists at all?

          • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 3:05 pm

            It does exist, and is one of many options available depending which package option fans, sorry supporters, dammit, clients choose to take up.

            • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 3:08 pm

              So it’s basically a small part of the overall plan which has been blown out of all proportion for (hilarious) comedy effect?

              • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 3:09 pm

                Yes.

        • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 2:58 pm

          Don’t forget the corporate facilities and high end restaurant choices that are a complete waste.
          Its not as if we have any history for attracting business and rich people who want these kinda things, the lack of boxes at the old WHL is proof enough. We’ve only ever had a spit and sawdust following.

          • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 3:09 pm

            I think the boxes (what idiot thought of that) are being adapted for social housing.

  • DAVID 07/06/2018 at 4:00 pm

    Sheesh, you guys, everything good is down to Poch everything bad is Levy’s fault.
    I thought everyone knew that.

  • 61SpursNut 07/06/2018 at 4:08 pm

    The stadium will sink or swim on its own merits. Option 4:

    • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 4:35 pm

      Wrong! We’ll build the pool, yes, but not put any water in it.

  • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 07/06/2018 at 4:09 pm

    Late to the party but I’m not sure our transfer success is any worse than others and in fact is better than most in the PL. I do think there is maybe an over reliance on trying to find hidden gems instead of going for the ready to go model but the stumbling block will still be the wages, at least for the immediate future. I cant blame them for Janssen or Llorente but Sissoko sticks out like a bulldogs bollax which has never made any sense. Aurier could still prove to be useful but not holding out much hope. A lot more hope re Moura, I think there’s a good player in there.

    • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 4:26 pm

      Yerp, agree with all that, especially Sissoko. That’s one transfer that makes no sense at all, a 27 year old player whose potential had already been realised, and our joint highest transfer fee at the time. A last minute panic buy.

    • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 4:39 pm

      This article states that Sissoko was very much a Poch buy, though doesn’t give any direct quotes, so could easily be questioned.
      I’d have to agree though, record transfer fee for a 27 year old with not the greatest record. I see absolutely no reason why Levy would sanction this without the insistence of Poch. But that doesn’t fit the narrative, does it?

  • Superspoz 🏆 07/06/2018 at 4:28 pm
  • Superspoz 🏆 07/06/2018 at 4:29 pm

    Comment waiting moderation. MODEFAKINRATION?!?!

    • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 4:32 pm

      Was it a moderate comment?

    • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 07/06/2018 at 4:40 pm

      I just approved it Spoz. Had an Approve button next to it so went for it. Hope that’s OK Flatster although might want to change my setting?

      • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 5:08 pm

        Liberty!

      • Anonymous 07/06/2018 at 5:44 pm

        Sviiit 👍

    • 61SpursNut 07/06/2018 at 6:32 pm

      Two website links anywhere in a post will instigate the moderation routine. Repeat offenders will be embarrassed.

  • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 4:40 pm

    Ello, wodoo we av ere then?

    • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 4:42 pm

      Bowlarks! Ron thingamajig.

      • Freund or Foe 07/06/2018 at 4:45 pm

        That’s a bloody small pitch. Thank Christ our wingers are inverted.

        • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 4:49 pm

          We’ll deploy our new 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 formation, that’ll flummox the oppo.

        • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 07/06/2018 at 4:50 pm

          It allows for the running track next to it. Got to give it to Levy, he’s covered all the bases.

  • Anonymous 07/06/2018 at 5:06 pm

    Freund or Foe
    Ah, now I C what you mean by plan B. That’s A ok ;-D
    Isn’t that what we did on several occasions, every occasion that Llorente came on as sub? But it didn’t work because he didn’t play well enough or put away his chances? I seem to remember him being found in good areas quite a lot, but not doing anything good with the ball?

    He did get a few chances for sure, and should have buried them…so what went wrong? Either he wasn’t the right guy for the role in the first place or he didn’t get enough opportunities to get into a groove (not a good enough finisher) or we didn’t actually play properly to his strengths. Either way, heather result for THFC hasn’t been good enough which points to a failure in recruitment and/or not using the player correctly. In isolation, you can understand a mistake…but we bought Janssen the year before who couldn’t hit a cow’s arse with a banjo when he pulled on the Lilywhite either, which equals two consecutive mistakes in the same position…surely we can improve in the area of recruitment after all?

    • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 5:06 pm

      Only me!

    • McG ⚽⚽ 07/06/2018 at 5:30 pm

    • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 6:05 pm

      …three if you include Soldado.

      • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 6:54 pm

        Please don’t remind us!

        I was talking Poch era transfers for the purposes of my unfair transfer rant.

        • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 7:18 pm

          Soldado may not have been a success, but he did win the crowd over, and I think we won him over as well.

          • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 7:25 pm

            Lovely guy, no doubt a great poacher. Just didn’t fit our style of play at the time.

            • Jonjo O'Spurvy 07/06/2018 at 8:25 pm

              Traditional method or silicon molds?

              • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 8:29 pm

                Pan it, vinegar tits.

  • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 5:38 pm
    • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 5:57 pm

      Tricky, that would be like picking a face out of a crowd of Morrissey’s..

  • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 6:54 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5817983/Tottenham-leading-race-sign-Aston-Villas-40m-rated-star-Jack-Grealish.html

    Socks around the ankles. Love it.

    Come to Tottenham, Jack — we’ll make an England international of you in no time.

    • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 6:57 pm

      I must agree. I like the look of this kid. He’ll have been kicked around the. Championship so will be pretty tough and he’s caught my eye every time I’ve seen him play. He’s talented and he’s got the belief in himself to try to show it.

      • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 07/06/2018 at 7:18 pm

        I’m not sure tbh, he’s got a bit of a temper (not saying that’s necessarily bad) and was lucky not to have got sent off against Fulham in the playoffs. I’d back Poch to get the best out of him though.

      • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 7:20 pm

        Pfft to your Grealish clique, Maddison has my non existent vote..

  • Anonymous 07/06/2018 at 7:58 pm

    Surprised we haven’t been linked with ‘wantaway star’ Danny Drinkwater yet.

    Just seen that we need to offload some non-homegrown players for our CL squad. Dier and Davies are both considered foreigners.

    • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 7:59 pm

      Guess who.

    • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 8:02 pm

      If true, I’m a tad disappointed, I mean Lascelles, really?!
      Llorente, Sissoko, Aurier, Tobes, Dembele (?),
      I make that a possible 5 overseas players out.

      • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 8:13 pm

        Yup, only 17 “non-locally trained” in the CL squad.

        Meanwhile, Phil Jones looks like a flustered Bus Conductor only 10 mins into this game.

        • Jonjo O'Spurvy 07/06/2018 at 8:19 pm

          Game?

          • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 8:20 pm

            England vs Costa Rica

            • Jonjo O'Spurvy 07/06/2018 at 8:21 pm

              Pftffft: PLOP!

              • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 8:23 pm

                Tommy Robinson wouldn’t have said that.

          • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 8:21 pm

            Spurvy? You’ve been at sea far too long..

            • Jonjo O'Spurvy 07/06/2018 at 8:27 pm

              Don’t get lemon.

      • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 8:58 pm

        Lascalles was Newcastle’s Player of the Year last season. Ahead of Jonjo Shelvey. So he must have something about him.

  • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 8:14 pm

    Rashford’s alright.

    • Jonjo O'Spurvy 07/06/2018 at 8:18 pm

      Glad to hear it.

  • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 07/06/2018 at 8:19 pm

    Just turned on, I thought we were the ones in white.

    • Jonjo O'Spurvy 07/06/2018 at 8:23 pm

      Your predelictions are none of our concerns.

      • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 07/06/2018 at 8:27 pm

        Shouldn’t you be cramming?

        • Jonjo O'Spurvy 07/06/2018 at 8:29 pm

          I’m cramming to the break of dawn.

          • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 07/06/2018 at 8:32 pm

            Crammin till the cram is through.

  • Jonjo O'Spurvy 07/06/2018 at 8:32 pm

    Caspurs
    Ello, wodoo we av ere then?
    [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecw8vaKMiC4?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent%5D

    Nice one Cas. YouTube straight from the blog!

  • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 8:53 pm

    Hmm. Sterling or Rashford?

    Let me get back to you on that one.

  • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 8:59 pm

    Danny Rose is having a fine game tonight. As is, as much as it pains me to say, Jordan Henderson.

    • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 9:01 pm

      I haven’t seen Rose do anything of note.

      • UnkleTaff 07/06/2018 at 9:05 pm

        He’s linked up very effectively with Marcus Rashford so far.

        • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 9:06 pm

          Yes but what has he actually done? Other than pass to Rashford.

    • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 07/06/2018 at 9:07 pm

      I only saw Henderson kick the ball into the crowd then apologise. Then again I’m only half watching.

      • 61SpursNut 07/06/2018 at 9:09 pm

        S r y I i s d h l o t a !

        • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 07/06/2018 at 9:11 pm

          Err, Klingon?

          • Caspurs 07/06/2018 at 9:12 pm

            Why aye unna reck’un it’s Geordie Mun?

          • 61SpursNut 07/06/2018 at 9:13 pm

            o r , m s d a f f h t

            • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 07/06/2018 at 9:17 pm

              Where’s Ron when you need him?

              • Ronwol1960-61 08/06/2018 at 10:31 am

                This is your Ron virtual Ronglish assistant. Just spell it correctly and I will jumble them up.No need to do it yrouslef,Yousef

                • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 08/06/2018 at 10:39 am

                  Gmorning Woolrn, send Yusef over for a holiday, Tommy Robinson wants too put him up.

                  • Ronwol1960-61 08/06/2018 at 11:00 am

                    On what?

                    • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 08/06/2018 at 12:14 pm

                      A bicycle made for two.

  • 61SpursNut 07/06/2018 at 9:24 pm

    S r y I i se h l o t a !
    o r , m s d a f f h t

    • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 9:25 pm

      You know there’s an ‘Edit’ button, right?

      • 61SpursNut 07/06/2018 at 9:26 pm

        It worked just fine in me ‘ead.

  • Flat Oeuf 07/06/2018 at 9:24 pm

    We’re defo winning the World Cup this time, this time, this time, more than any other time, this time.

  • 61SpursNut 07/06/2018 at 9:35 pm

    Nice work from Dele.

    • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 07/06/2018 at 9:37 pm

      I c w.

  • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 07/06/2018 at 9:36 pm

    Gotta say the crowd are much more excited than the Wembley mob.

    • foeorfreund 08/06/2018 at 8:42 am

      You should see ‘em when the circus hits Leeds.

  • 61SpursNut 07/06/2018 at 10:01 pm

    Rashford – YES
    Stirling – NO, NO, NO

    • McG ⚽⚽ 07/06/2018 at 11:44 pm

      You Don’t Love Me..

  • Jonjo O'Spurvy 07/06/2018 at 10:44 pm

    • Jonjo O'Spurvy 07/06/2018 at 10:48 pm

      Lives on t’south coast. Eats fish and chips on t’beach.

      • foeorfreund 08/06/2018 at 8:41 am

        He’s far more handsomer.

  • Jonjo O'Spurvy 08/06/2018 at 3:14 am

    ~10k words done. Only 4 exams to sit and another 3.5k words to write and Bobble Bee my uncle.

    • foeorfreund 08/06/2018 at 8:40 am

      Can they be any words?
      A a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a

    • Flat Oeuf 08/06/2018 at 8:56 am

      Top banana

      • Ronwol1960-61 08/06/2018 at 10:29 am

        Fyffe out of Fyffe!!!

  • UnkleTaff 08/06/2018 at 10:46 am

    Have we got enough regulars on here yet for a World Cup sweepstake?

    • Ronwol1960-61 08/06/2018 at 11:00 am

      We at Ronglish are irregular

    • Ronwol1960-61 08/06/2018 at 11:01 am

      How do you propose to pay,Taff?

      • UnkleTaff 08/06/2018 at 11:03 am

        No money, just for fun is all.

  • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 08/06/2018 at 11:09 am

    Ok Im in

    • UnkleTaff 08/06/2018 at 11:12 am

      Well that’s two of us.

      It’s a start.

      • Ronwol1960-61🕎⚽🎷🎥 08/06/2018 at 11:15 am

        its a consortium

  • Flat Oeuf 08/06/2018 at 12:05 pm

    Who’s knocking out a quick bloeug then? Doesn’t need to be a masterpiece like mine are.

    • UnkleTaff 08/06/2018 at 12:11 pm

      I’ll provide a filler until someone else can come up with something decent. See if you can guess what it’ll be about…

      • Caspurs 08/06/2018 at 12:17 pm

        Josh Onomah?

    • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 08/06/2018 at 12:13 pm

      I’ve got a quicky you can bung in when ever. I’ll pop it over on email.

  • UnkleTaff 08/06/2018 at 12:26 pm

    New sweepstaketastic bloeug.

    https://flatoeuf.com/world-cup-sweepstake/

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