Ledders in The Athletic: Dear Harry, you’re the best No 9 in the world and England captain. That doesn’t happen by accident

By Ledley King writing in The Athletic today.

Dear Harry,

About 10 years ago, when I was coming to the end of my playing career, the name Harry Kane was always being brought up. When you’re an older player you’re aware of the young talent coming through, and you were the one scoring goals at youth level and being noticed.

I got to see a bit of you around the club and it was clear you were a natural-born goalscorer. You always had that knack but were also a bit like Teddy Sheringham because it wasn’t so much your pace as your touch and awareness, and the ability to drop deep, which we see now. I would have liked to have seen more of you, but the problem I had was that because of injury I couldn’t train towards the end of my career!

You were a quiet lad but you had a focus about you. You were so driven from a very young age so it’s no surprise how far you’ve gone.

When I came back to work with the academy a few years later, you were starting to break into the first team. You had some loans, and they can be quite difficult for young players, but it was clear you’d come back determined to succeed and get better.

Since then you’ve become a hero at Tottenham.

And what’s great is you’ve come through the youth team, you’ve been with the club from a very young age, and that’s so important. Players like you really understand what it means to the fans, and the fans can really relate to you. After I retired there was a spell where I felt like we struggled for a bit; I felt like we lost that connection with the team and the fans in terms of homegrown players coming through.

But then we saw you and Harry Winks come through, and Ryan Mason, and others. And you seemed to really lift the fans, and it’s always great when fans get behind the homegrown talent.

And it’s even better when you have a homegrown player who goes on to be as good as you.

Of course the fans root for everyone, but there’s always something special about a young lad who’s worked his way up from the academy. You can see what it means to them when they finally get an opportunity to get out there onto the pitch, and the fans could see that in you. Someone who was running his socks off, chasing down everything, and that was before all the goals started to come. First and foremost you could see how much it meant for you to be out there.

And then to go on and become the player you have is just great for everyone involved at the club.

Seeing you on Wednesday, I felt so proud. My only surprise was you didn’t score the penalty! But I know how much you work and dedicate yourself to be almost perfect. You’re striving for perfection.

And now for you to be in the position to be the first captain since the great Bobby Moore to lift a major trophy for England is really amazing, even more so when we can say that you’re one of our own. It’s just such a shame that there aren’t any more Spurs players in the squad to share that experience with you because over the last few years, we’ve seen a number of the players playing their part in the squad, and it would have been even more special if you’d been able to share it with a few of the other guys at the club.

But what an inspiration this will be to young players coming through at Spurs. I’ve always said to any academy prospect, you don’t have to look very far to find inspiration and what it takes to achieve your dreams because Harry’s someone who’s been there just as you are now. And that he’s a great role model for any young player or any young person in the way he conducts himself on and off the pitch, and dedicates himself to football.

When I was coaching you last season and seeing you up close, I could really see how much football means to you, how dedicated you are to your craft and being the best player you can be.

And so to tonight. It will be emotional, and like millions of others, I’ll be pretty nervous. But one thing’s for sure, when the ball drops or there’s a chance, there’s no one better than you to be in that position. Knowing that gives me a certain amount of comfort, and I’m sure the rest of the country feels that way.

You thoroughly deserve to be in this position, with the chance to lift that trophy this evening. The best No 9 in the world and England captain — these things don’t happen by accident; they’re because you dedicated yourself to being the best. I’ve got nothing but admiration for you.

You’re a class, class act and we’re all really proud to have you as one of our own.

Yours,

Ledley

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Northern Spur
Northern Spur
2 months ago

Sorry to read about the news from Stevo and SpurAndy. My best wishes to you and your families. 🙏🏻💙🤍🍀

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
2 months ago

This is not who you think it us its Nuno Cas

https://youtu.be/EI5nw1kYwdo

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
89Spurs 👁
89Spurs 👁
2 months ago

Regards to Stevo, read your latest post so sorry to hear about your current situation. Just hope that things improve in near future, all the very best wishes from all at 89Spurs.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

Maksim Paskotsi is training with the first team squad. The Estonian lad joined the academy last summer. He’s a centre back.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago

Price seems high to me.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

Where’s the 30 million coming from?

There are some legs to this one. It was reported Sevilla were interest in Davinson if Kounde should leave to go to United. Makes sense he could be part of a swap deal.

Chauveljn
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

(Plus using a player as make weight helps Sevilla as there is a 20% sell on clause to Bordeaux. So that’s effectively 5 million saved.)

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago

Jesus F-ing Christ:

Breaking: Tennessee Department of Health halts all vaccine outreach to kids – not just for COVID-19, but all diseases-mumps, measles, polio–amid pressure from GOP.

The agency will also end all COVID-19 vaccine events at schools, even though they’ve mostly served adults. And, if teens get a two-dose vaccine, it won’t remind them to go back for their second dose. Teens are intentionally stripped from the mailing list for reminder postcards.

Republican politicians are now overtly pro-disease.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago

A while back, I noted that most of the anti-vaxxer nuttiness began on the left. But the right has made it their own in ways that make the suburban moms of Marin County look like total amateurs. This is incredible, but not really surprising.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

I’m sorry Seattle, but the stuff like this I hear from America scares me. I’m pleased to live on this side of the pond despite the shower of dismal incompetents in charge.

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

I don’t think we’re that far removed from our conspiratorial USian cousins, we just haven’t quite got there yet, but there are more than enough stupid morons over here.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

Give it 10-15 years, yes, quite likely. At least we don’t have this state strata of shithousery setting themselves up to oppose national government, even when it is likely to harm children.

Ronwol196061
Ronwol196061
2 months ago

Let the Football Hooligans free near the Houses of Parliament and watch them attack

Chauveljn
2 months ago
Reply to  Ronwol196061

Let’s face it, Chelsea are just up the road. Twenty minutes walk.

Ronwol196061
Ronwol196061
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

True

HjD 😷🇺🇲
HjD 😷🇺🇲
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

We have the same situation here. 535 elected people in our Senate and Congress plus the Executive Branch. All of our countries issues, since our inception, can be traced to these people. Still there is no place I would rather be.

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
2 months ago

Yep, just read that, absolutely appalling.
Worlds gone mad.

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
2 months ago

Can we change the name of our blog?
I don’t want to be associated with those whackos

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
2 months ago

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Chauveljn
2 months ago

You get the politicians people vote for. We knew he was an egotistical, unprincipled liar years ago. The lemmings still hurled themselves over the cliff.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

Very droll caption. Where did it come from Funken?

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Twitter.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago

LOLZ

Hibernian 2-1 Arsenal, RESULT in friendly

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
2 months ago

Seen the hibs 2nd goal ? Tis a howler from the goonie keeps.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago
Reply to  AntSpurj

Naw. I’ll have a look

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
2 months ago

Hactually it was the first.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago

Reports in Spain that Barcelona are interested in signing Giovani Lo Celso.

With their money issues and needing to cut 200 million euros in salary, I’ll take that with a grain of salt.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago

Messi’s last contract got leaked to a Spanish newspaper. He was getting a salary of about $1.4 million a week. A signing bonus of $139 million. A “loyalty” bonus — to a player it has employed since he was 13 — of $93 million.

If he met every clause and condition in the contract, it was worth almost $675 million.

Bet he takes a cut this time.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

This excess is obscene. And it’s damaged Barca. Football is the loser.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago

I’m seeing a lot of stories that we’re trying to sign Danny Ings. Not a bad player, but he’s had one really good PL goal scoring season to go with several so-so ones. He’s also had some serious injury issues. And he’ll be 29 in 10 days.

Doesn’t excite me much, but this type of player might be our station for a season or two.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

I’d love him. Quality goal scorer who could rotate with Kane or go two up front with him.

I’ve checked and he’s missed 19 games due to injury in the last 4 seasons. That’s not too bad, I know he was out for a season in 2016/17 but hasn’t had a long lay off since, just the odd two or three matches out at a time.

But more likely to go to City to give Pep a cheap option, and next summer I bet they suggest cash plus Ings for Kane!

Last edited 2 months ago by Chauveljn
SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

He missed most of the 2015-16 season (October to May) with an right knee injury, then was out nearly a year over 2016-17 with a left knee injury. True, he’s been pretty fit lately, but two damaged knees gives me pause.

stevo1987
stevo1987
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Rotate with Kane? Is Harry staying?

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Unless he downs tools to force a move, I have a hard time seeing a move this summer.

Last edited 2 months ago by SeattleSpursGuy
Chauveljn
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

From what I’ve read, Harry asked to be kept informed of any bids made for him. So far not aware of anything official, despite the media desperation to get him away from Spurs. And Levy won’t sell cheap.

stevo1987
stevo1987
2 months ago

Anyone becoming disenchanted with football? I am. I support Spurs and England or England and Spurs. I don’t think I can take much more. I am not enjoying it. Too many disappointments. Just when you think you are getting somewhere something bites one in the arse. Sort of mirrors my life at the moment tbh.

stevo1987
stevo1987
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

i.e f*cking shite……. 🙁

Freuno or Foe
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Sorry to hear that Stevo. England I can take or leave, disappointed by Sunday but that’s as far as it went. Can’t stop the Spurs love-in, no matter how shite we are.

stevo1987
stevo1987
2 months ago
Reply to  Freuno or Foe

Cheers FoF. I have been on this blog and the “other one” for quite a while” and not contributed too much. Sometimes i have been a bit of a jerk and got into scraps with a few people for which I offer my apologies.

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Being a bit of a jerk is the minimum requirement for posting on this blog.
Have you retired yet ?

stevo1987
stevo1987
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

No not yet David. Looking at sometime in 2023 when I have a special birthday. Saying that life has come to a grinding halt just now.

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

You sound a bit down mate, what you planning to do when you retire, got any hobbies or interests to keep you occupied?
I retired 8 years ago, don’t do much to be honest, bit of swimming and bike riding, lots of sport watching and lots of time looking after grandkids.

stevo1987
stevo1987
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

I have been doing a lot in the garden recently. I have a lot of time on my hands now. My daughter moved out and now lives in Norwich with her boyfriend. Her Uni graduation is next week. Missed out on a 1st by 0.63%. Crazy. My eldest son has been back with us for almost a year, due to covid really, finishes his phd soon but has already secured a really good job with Glaxo. He has high functioning autism aka Aspergers so that is hell of a relief to us. Unfortunately,
Mrs Stevo has been in hospital for two weeks after being diagnosed with cancer. Sorry, I don’t think I should be posting this.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Brave of you to share that Stevo and really sorry to hear it. Had similar situation over 30 years ago and it was one of the worst experiences of my life. Thankfully it all turned out OK so very best wishes for the same to your wife.

stevo1987
stevo1987
2 months ago

Thanks folks, I don’t know why I am posting this here. Sorry. My missus is not big footy fan but she used to go to some Cambridge United games with her brother. She has been to WHL with me once though. 17 April 1993 Spurs 4 Oldham 1. I had to look that up. 🙂

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Sometimes it helps to share, Stevo. So if it does, share away. This is a bit like a self help community at times. With our history Spurs addicts need all the help they can get! 😏

stevo1987
stevo1987
2 months ago

Yeah, I know you are a good bunch. Weird, even though I have never met any of you. I still miss some of the others who decided to leave us. I don’t post too much these days but I still have a read.

Paleo
Paleo
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

I’ll light a candle tonight and have a few words asking for a positive outcome.
All the best Steveo

Freuno or Foe
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

So sorry mate, Mrs Stevo and all of you in my thoughts. I’ve often used this and the last place to vent, to clear anything built up in my head. Found it very helpful every time, if only just to get it out there rather than constantly spinning it around. Always found Oeufers to be a good ear 👍

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

That’s awful, no wonder you’re sounding down, it probably won’t help but I was in your position 11 years ago, I know it’s an awful situation to be in.

61 Spurs Nunut
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

So sorry to hear about Mrs Stevo. I can’t imagine how difficult that must be. Very best wishes to you both.

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

so sorry to hear this Stevo , nothing wrong with a ding dong from time to time , we are all friends here . Love and best wishes and prayers for you and your family mate . Congrats to your boy and girl on their successes.🙏

GDawg
GDawg
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Sorry to hear that mate. If you need to share, why not do so with a bunch of your best (virtual) online mates. unload away

Last edited 2 months ago by GDawg
Freuno or Foe
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

No apologies needed mate, we’re all quite obviously jerks otherwise we wouldn’t be here on a Spurs site 😁

Chauveljn
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Sorry to hear this Stevo. Sometimes life feels like one day’s hard slog after another.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Life is like the box of chocs, Stevo. Sometimes you get the Turkish Delight. There’s always peaks and troughs so hope you start the climb soon mate. As regards England there was a time when I was more disappointed if they lost than Spurs. Not any more, just don’t really connect with them any more. Decent bunch of lads on the whole though. The more I see of the f*ckwits that get linked to the game the more I question whether I want to be part of it. Stupid I know but it feels a bit, guilt by association. I know they’re a small minority but they unfortunately make a helluva noise.

Last edited 2 months ago by SpurAndy🍒🥧
SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago
Reply to  stevo1987

Sorry to hear about your troubles, Stevo; hope they level out soon.

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago

Reading about events surrounding the game on Sunday evening, sounds like the Wild West .
Racing driver Lando Norris was mugged outside the ground following the game and had a very expensive watch stolen, just reading the comments on the incident, most of the contributors are blaming him for wearing it rather than the thieves . What strange times we live in.

61 Spurs Nunut
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

Green eyed monsters.

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago
Reply to  61 Spurs Nunut

Older I get, less I understand.
Hope Freya is improving.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

Yes, trending upwards atm and hopefully at home soon. Thanks for asking David.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

She’ll be in your arms soon gramps and sicking all over your shoulder.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Haha, my son was a nightmare for that. He’d still keep being sick up until his next feed! Nothing quite like the smell of baby sick… 😁

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago

Great stuff, will be great to get her home.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

How many grandkids have you got, David?

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago

6 so far, unlikely to be any more.
The last one, Jake, was premature and had to stay in ICU for several weeks. One of his parents always with him but we all found it tough going, always nice to get home to some kind of normality.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

That must have been very tough on all of you. The worrying seems to get worse as I get older. It doesn’t blight my life but at times it is quiet draining. Do wonder if the last 18 months of Covid has caused some of it. Sure it must have effected a lot of others as well.

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago

Worrying really affected my father during the last years of his life , I’m afraid I’m going the same way, always imagining or fearing the worse. I wish I knew what the answer is, it’s easy for it to take your life over.
You can get counselling apparently, I haven’t tried it, stuff upper lip and all that.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

Was anyone badly hit by the London flooding yesterday?

They’d love some of that torrential rain on the West Coast of the US.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Seems the sudden extreme pop up storms that seem to come out of nowhere are going to be more prevalent in future. Had one over us a few weeks ago and some flooding occurred nearby.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

Yes, we’ve had intense rain yesterday and today which lasted about half an hour both times, but dumped water on us. Nothing like what London received.

Oh no, not Nuno!
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Had to drive through it on the M25, twas a bit scary, not that I let on, couldn’t do that..

Chauveljn
2 months ago

Aquaplaning is squeaky pance time.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

If you are one of the 3.8 million clinically vulnerable people who will get acutely ill from covid despite vaccinations, God help them if they rely on public transport now its no longer mandatory to wear masks on board.

Nice one Boris. Dickhead.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago

NEW: Fans attending sporting events in England after July 19 will require a Covid passport and will be told to wear masks. [Telegraph]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2021/07/13/covid-passports-masks-required-sporting-events-england-july/

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
2 months ago

My understanding, which could obvs be wrong, is that the government don’t want to provide anything more than guidance. So I don’t think there’ll be any mandatory instructions about the use of covid passports to get into grounds. It’ll be for the FA or clubs to make their own decisions.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago

So far, I’ve only seen the Telegraph running with this story.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago

Are ‘Covid passports’ even a thing over there?

Chauveljn
2 months ago

Parliament is still debating the idea.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Sounds like a mass debate.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

The issue is being tossed around.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

*(t)issue.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

A radio comedy show last Friday had a sketch with Boris opening up Jurassic Park and saying it was up to “individual responsibility” whether they got eaten by the velociraptors.

That’s about where we are with Boris washing his hands of the issue.

Edit: unintended irony.

Last edited 2 months ago by Chauveljn
DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago

50 covid deaths reported today, highest number for 3 months, infections increasing on s daily basis, its almost like Boris wants the numbers to increase, is it to test the vaccine success or is he going for herd immunity?

You would think that if this gamble goes wrong the Conservatives would be in real trouble with the electorate, problem is the main opposition are more interested in internal squabbles than mounting any kind of challenge.

It’s a sad state of affairs for what has become a very divided country.

SpurAndy🍒🥧
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

Sadly true David and we know when the division began and how it started.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

I’d say 1066. That’s when a non native aristocracy was embedded in a them and us class system.

Chauveljn
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

I suspect it’s pursuing herd immunity this summer for those under middle age. He’s gambling not too many ‘bodies pile up’ in this strategy.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago

It’s just announced that Bristol Bears v. Saracens Premiership game this coming March will be played at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium.

Shake that money-maker, Daniel.

Mystic arnold
Mystic arnold
2 months ago

Hope it’s on the plastic pitch.Rugby will ruin the real one

Ronwol196061
Ronwol196061
2 months ago

GDawg
 21 hours ago

 Reply to  ronwol196061
England failed to press home their advantage after scoring the early goal, one was never going to be enough. Too defensive, they should have created more chances. Southgate has forged a strong spirit in the squad, but I think tactically he has taken them as far as he can

Dawg I wondered why the Italians were just passing very slowly back and forth.It was odd because England was totally dominating them and then they got that Shaw goal and the natural thing for a quality team was to respond but they didnt.They took their time.They looked beaten but this slow going nowhere passing did one thing.It took away the counter from England and the momentum. Now Italy were calling the shots even they werent impacting England so much. They then owned the possession and they started to dictate the game,they slowed the pace and England had no idea what to do

GDawg
GDawg
2 months ago
Reply to  Ronwol196061

No plan B for England

Ronwol196061
Ronwol196061
2 months ago
Reply to  GDawg

100%

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago

Ally Gold says Spurs are set to announce a new training kit sponsorship deal.

Our Top Four push is back on!

Matt
Matt
2 months ago

Excited

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
2 months ago

They will soon have to find some players to play in them

Chauveljn
2 months ago

33 days till the PL kicks off…

Any defensive reinforcements would be gratefully accepted.

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago

Kane’s posted on his twitter account telling the racists their support is unwanted.

Top guy, we have been very lucky to have him.

Chauveljn
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

So I guess, he won’t be moving to Chelsea anytime soon…

Spursy
Spursy
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

Great post.

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

Great post!

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago

I re-watched most of the second half, extra time and penalties this morning, and you have to fault Southgate’s thinking on couple of his moves.

Around 70 minute he subs Saka for Trippier. An attacking move, but it removes a player Southgate describes as a fantastic deadball striker. Surely Tripps is someone you want in to take a pen?

Just before extra time ends, he subs in Rashford and Sancho. OK, Southgate thought they did well taking pens in practice, but a cup final at stake in front of 1000’s in your home stadium is nothing like practice. And they had been sitting for over two hours and barely touched the ball upon entering the game, but they were expected to convert crucial penalties?

This was a crazy decision to me. Neither looked confident or in the right frame of mind to do what Southgate wanted. Just subbing them in 10 minutes sooner to get into a playing rhythm could have changed things.

Still feel bad for Harry.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

I said Southgate blew this match yesterday and I stand by that. The golden opportunity was blown by his bad decision making. Not the initial tactics, they worked, but his in-game management is lousy and if he can’t learn from his mistakes he’ll not improve.

No point saying rah rah rah, Southgate is wonderful. That leads nowhere.

Listening to Italian journalist Mina Rzouki she reported Mancini was astounded Italy were let back into the game second half after a shaky start. He changed tactics and couldn’t believe Southgate didn’t respond for ages as they took control.

Says it all.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Yeah, there were problems with Southgate’s in-game decisions also, but his approach when penalties seemed inevitable was particularly bad in my opinion.

Chauveljn
2 months ago

Sadly so. I couldn’t believe he chose two relative newbies in preference to the more experienced guys, who’ve been in high pressure games before. Poor psychology from someone for whom that is supposed to be a strength. Also, what does that say to those older players? I trust these young ‘uns more than you…

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

If Southgate thought Sancho and Rashford were the ones he wanted to take the pens based on spot kicks in training, that’s fair; he watches how they perform in training and he would know. But I think you have to be in the game for a bit, get properly warm and up to speed with the match in order to properly take a spot kick.

I’m remembering a game against Leicester 2-3 years back. We concede a penalty and Leicester immediately sub in Jamie Vardy to take the shot, but he misses to keep the score 1-0.

Even an experienced taker like Vardy found it difficult to come into a game and immediately take a pen. His mind just wasn’t right. Had to be even tougher for less experienced players.

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago

When I saw Maguire step up I thought oh no, he took the best Penalty of the lot.

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

He did.

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago

Jack Grealish has now felt compelled to go on social media because he was getting slaughtered for not taking a penalty yesterday.
Turns out he and Phillip’s both volunteered, more than 5 players put their hand up, Southgate decided who should take them based on performance in training.

Social media really is a modern day curse.

HjD 🇺🇸
HjD 🇺🇸
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

…a pariah

Chauveljn
2 months ago

I’ll repost Ally Gold’s latest in case the original post was missed in the hubbub yesterday.

Video was made prior to the final.

Paleo
Paleo
2 months ago

I’m over it,now to concentrate on my main heartbreakers,COYS

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago
Reply to  Paleo

Good to hear, are you getting much grief from your workmates ?
The idiots fighting after the game and making racist comments is more upsetting than losing the game .

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

Its not a one off DAVID some people think that way always and occasionally it seeps out

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago
Reply to  ronwol196061

Yes I know, the fighting has been going on for years, remember when English teams were banned from playing in Europe and social media has given a loud voice to the racists. The match result almost becomes irrelevant.

Paleo
Paleo
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

Took the day off,don’t think I could have handled their joy today. Agree with you about the idiots,time for Parliament to sort out a few new laws so these fuck witted shit heads get what’s coming to them

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago
Reply to  Paleo

That would be good, brave of Kane to stick his head above the parapet tonight.

Hope tomorrow goes ok.

Spursy
Spursy
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

Kane did well to speak up. I’m proud of him for posting.

Spursy
Spursy
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

That’s how I feel, David. A friend sent me some screenshots and I felt so shocked at the hatred that people could post.

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago
Reply to  Spursy

It’s absolutely crazy, really don’t understand what goes through their minds .

Spursy
Spursy
2 months ago
Reply to  Paleo

Love this.
COYS.

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
2 months ago

My take..

England looked brilliant from the off.Powerful,quick and determined. But one goal is not enough to be smug about.
On the other hand,Italy showed great patience even being dominated. Moving slowly,steadily. Their footwork gradually taking over possession from England as the game went on.
Sterling thrust himself forward but really he looked like more yhe bad side of Moura than the good side as he ran into trouble time and time again.
Harry did some nice passes but was bereft of supply in any forward position.
Grealish looked lively although not really getting an end product to anyone.
Then the penalties which was like a paradigm of the game. Great in the beginning and gave it he momentum away

DAVID
DAVID
2 months ago
Reply to  ronwol196061

We were playing so deep and passively in the second half, stopped pressing and invited trouble. Just like watching Spurs!

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
2 months ago
Reply to  DAVID

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GDawg
GDawg
2 months ago
Reply to  ronwol196061

England failed to press home their advantage after scoring the early goal, one was never going to be enough. Too defensive, they should have created more chances. Southgate has forged a strong spirit in the squad, but I think tactically he has taken them as far as he can