Gentle vivisection

First, of course I commend the lads and the managerial staff for getting as far as they did.  It was truly brilliant, thrilling and heart-warming.  We’re set up for a few tournaments to  come with goodwill, excitement and expectation.  Life has been breathed back into international football and that is no mean feat.  So Well Done everyone.

However, if we want to get this far, or further, in the future lessons need to be learned.  That is also the harsh reality of competing at the highest level.

Much of this will have been said already or re-hashed out there, so I’ll make it mercifully brief.

Where this game was lost:

  1.  Not taking our clear-cut chances in the First Half.  Not creating other clear-cut chances when we had the chance.  Not hitting the target with half-chances.  None of the Front 4 were at their highest level, and that’s where they needed to be to beat this lot (and even more so if we were going to have a chance against France).  Dele looked at 70% or so.  Harry looked tired too, trying to do too much.  Lingard and Sterling needed to be clinical with the good work they did.  Henderson’s distribution was way off.  He can spread the ball wide, but as soon as he was looking for a longer-straighter ball he was off by several yards.  He’d had a good tournament but he was off yesterday and his deficiencies exposed.
  2. Not reading the change in the game in the Second Half.  It was clear something was up within 5 mins of it starting. Dropping back to counter their Wing-Backs’ ascendancy was not the answer.  We needed to cut them off at source: Modric.  Rakatic wasn’t having a great game, so if we’d stopped Luka, we would have been ok.  It’s not like it was a surprise he started to run the game.  He’s a genuine star and had proved it previously.  This one is on Southgate.  I know it’s not easy, but you have to be flexible to what is happening.  Have Plans B & C.  Putting Delph on, Modric, and changing the shape if necessary, would have done the job.  He’s at the top of his game in terms of fitness levels (recently changed diet) and for 40 mins, he could have contained him.
  3. New defence finally blew up.  Walker was mostly fantastic last night but got found out, as did Stones and Maguire.  No shame in that, but that’s what happened.  Mandzucic was not adequately contained, just at the critical moment and BOOM! Game over.

We were in the lead in a World Cup Semi Final and we blew it.

As I said, this doesn’t take anything away from what has been a fantastic campaign but we won’t get here again if we make these kinds of errors in big games.

Author: Flat Oeuf

A blog dedicated to aficionados of the chicken badge of Tottenham Hotspur FC, unashamedly revelling in the agony and ecstasy of every moment of every game....no matter who finds themselves fortunate enough, in any given season, to be the stewards, manager or players of the best club in the world. COYFS!

Comments
  • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 11:41 am

    Brief?!

  • Bruxie 12/07/2018 at 11:48 am

    Couldn’t agree more. Slipping to a back 5 was our downfall. Too much of a gap between defence and attack in the second half. Need a ball winner in midfield.

    Lessons learned, I hope. Nothing knee jerk.

  • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 11:56 am

    ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 11:52 am

    Flat Oeuf

    I understood the point you were making, Ron. In the heat of the disappointment the language on both sides of any debate gets scrutinised and blogging doesn’t allow immediate nuanced alterations in the same way face to face conversation does. I appreciate everyone’s contribution, even when O disagree or see others disagreeing. As long as we keep on playing the ball, we won’t go far wrong on here.

    This is why I call you a mensch, Flat.

    • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 11:57 am

      That is not utter rubbish, Ron 😛

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 11:58 am

        Are we buddies?

        • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 11:59 am

          I’ll grant an extension.

          • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 12:06 pm

            Ive tried snake elixers

    • Flat Oeuf 12/07/2018 at 2:36 pm

      Fanks Ron

  • Sexy Beast 12/07/2018 at 12:01 pm

    A very fair diagnosis of the game Fanny, personally I think that Southgate got out tacticed by his opponent.
    If only Harry had slotted his chance away I think they would not have been able to come back from that mentally or physically.
    I would also add that to me the change made by them second half could have been negated by taking off Tripps going to a flat back four and having an extra midfielder on, we were starting to get overrun towards the end of the first half and it seemed obvious to me.
    Still Southgate is young and will learn. A midfield general with vision is all this team needs….

  • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 12:02 pm

    Auntie Vivi’s section.

  • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 12:02 pm

    I can’t argue with that.
    Not being tactically flexible will eventually cost, especially when playing the better teams. Lingard and Stirling were profligate when opportunities arose, either to score or to find the correct pass.
    We could and probably should have won, but like the Colombia game we lost our composure and focus once Croatia equalised. We hear a lot about Game management, whether it was down to age, experience or the occasion, we failed to do the basics well. Perhaps keeping Henderson on and adding Dier would have helped to cut off the passing avenues Croatia were exploiting.
    To put it simply, Southgate needs to be tactically flexible with his formations.

  • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 12:05 pm

    I really think that England while never the best play better when they are up and emotional and getting stuck in. I thought that they thought they were in control and had time to play it cooly but it was the high emotion that worked for them. Once they tried to manage the game they seem to lose the edge and almost invite the Croatians in.
    From the Croation view they started pressing harder. It must have been a combination of those two things. It culminated in England losing the momentum and with that,the plot.

    • Sexy Beast 12/07/2018 at 12:09 pm

      A young team with a young coach getting out though, where have I seen this before? ……

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 12:10 pm

        A 5 year plan has amore chance than a 5 week plan

        • Sexy Beast 12/07/2018 at 12:25 pm

          Very true Ronald 👍

  • Hartley 12/07/2018 at 12:11 pm

    England didn’t beat anyone that was ranked higher than them in this World Cup, Croatia are ranked 8 places below but despite going down to a superb early goal, looked a much better side. The fact that Brazil, Argentina, Germany and Portugal got knocked out gave us all the hope that the England team really didn’t.

    • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 12:14 pm

      I thought that we dominated them physically in the first half.
      In the second we couldnt do anything right

  • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 12:12 pm

    As the game drew on we were still playing put of defence and with 6 Enhglish players back the Croatians still passed through us. It was uncanny that they found space and we couldnt.

    • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 12:17 pm

      That’s tactics Ron, they changed their shape to exploit ours, we didn’t respond and it cost us.

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 12:32 pm

        What could we do?
        If they were pressing us, it hurried our passes. We dont have great ball players. Their defence covered Kane and others very tight.

        When they had the ball
        Despite 2 rows xoming back they still found space.

        I just think we needed to stay aggressive with them and we didnt.
        Im not sure what tactics would have worked apart from that finding a Gascoigne or Hoddle there somewhere

  • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 12:21 pm

    Modric said they when they started high pressing us in the 2nd our passing was not as accurate something like that.
    It makes sense.
    We dont have that quality to be able to have better ball control and pin point as much.
    What we did do was we were more aggressive in the first and that and our goal helped our momentum.
    I guess Im not seeing the X’s and O’s as much as the flow

  • Sexy Beast 12/07/2018 at 12:24 pm

    Surprise surprise over on the dark side it’s all Dele Alli’s Fault!
    That Boy is a faking miserable bastard, in fact I’d go as far as to say he is a Troll.

    • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 12:27 pm

      I look at Dele Alli and think he needed to produce something sof substance on the attacking side
      But on the defensive side he was tracking Modric I believe in the first (I think Sniper mentioned that)
      I knew he did a lot of unthankful work but I also though we needed something more from his play.

    • Hartley 12/07/2018 at 12:28 pm

      Summats going on with him, mid life crisis maybe?

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 12:36 pm

        I think when a mid life crisis happens you eventually see yourself and that is the time when you have a chance to learn and heal.
        But when you blame others and rationalize then you are hiding from yourself.
        Blame itself is a sickness.
        Looking at thyself is much more important

        • Hartley 12/07/2018 at 12:41 pm

          Absolutely agree with that Ron.

          • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 12:49 pm

            Yes I believe in that.
            Its just that narcissism is very difficult to deal with. The whole point is its a facade and the only cure is the truth.

          • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 12:54 pm

            Ego is a tough one….Self Esteem is much more relevant

    • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 12:34 pm

      Anybody else remember that period a couple of years ago when he declared that Alli was his favourite player?

      • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 1:31 pm

        Apparently not…

      • Superspoz 🏆 12/07/2018 at 1:31 pm

        Nope, I remember the love for Aurier, I remember that we bought Klaasen and sessengon and remember people being binned for not agreeing. There’s a lot more that I remember but I can’t be bothered. Don’t care.

  • HD 12/07/2018 at 12:34 pm

    Didn’t see it, obviously. I am taking your word for it as you are generally spot on. I enjoyed the ride. I hope our lads can get some rest and eventually get their Spurs boots on. Oeufster, you have a great thing going here, thanks for your efforts.

    • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 12:40 pm

      Good journey, Dawg?

      • HD 12/07/2018 at 12:56 pm

        So far Fofty, drove from home to Butte, Montana yesterday, will get to the Seattle area this afternoon. We are road warriors. Beautiful country we have here.

        • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 12:58 pm

          I very much look forward to seeing it 😀

          • HD 12/07/2018 at 1:03 pm

            You will require a necessary travel break in Gering, Nebraska. 🇺🇸

            • DAVID 12/07/2018 at 2:21 pm

              Did you see the message from SSG to you on previous blog regarding meeting up for a drink during your road trip ?

  • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 12/07/2018 at 1:11 pm

    Agree with all that Flatster. The cynic in me says that was our big chance and we won’t get another one. With low expectations at the start getting to have a semi for mostly a young crew naturally gives us back hope for the future. However four years on the crew won’t be young and expectations will be back to fever pitch which has always resulted in failure. I enjoyed the ride much more than I expected and think that we could do well next Euros. Just can’t see this as being the big turning point to being as good as the Germans, Spanish, Brazilians etc and actually winning the damn thing.

    • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 1:16 pm

      England have a zero net spend record, and don’t pay the market rate in wages. Whatever did you expect?

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 2:02 pm

        Methinks this theory comes from the ‘East’

    • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 2:04 pm

      Andy when was the last time England had a creative midfielder?
      Gascoigne?
      Hoddle?

      • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 12/07/2018 at 2:06 pm

        You forgot Carlton Palmer.

        • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 2:11 pm

          Had to look him up

          Winner!

        • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 2:12 pm

          No Tommy Harmer

  • Superspoz 🏆 12/07/2018 at 1:27 pm

    Stat of the day.
    Kyle walker blocked more shots with his bollocks more than any other England player.

    • Superspoz 🏆 12/07/2018 at 1:28 pm

      More more more…

    • Flat Oeuf 12/07/2018 at 1:40 pm

      That would really testes mettle.

    • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 2:01 pm

      He should join the Croatians….Kyle Bollocic

  • TCY 12/07/2018 at 1:59 pm

    To this untutored eye the lack of a Modric-esque midfielder and the failure to hound the little rat faced superstar were the fatal flaws.

    Also Walker went off the boil at just the wrong time and Stones chose the exact second to forget how to defend.

    England went as far as it could expect to with the talent on the field and in the dugout. Southgate did not rise to the ultimate occasion.

    Nevertheless the Mrs and I enjoyed the ride. Thank you Three Lions. Job well done.

  • DAVID 12/07/2018 at 2:24 pm

    Modric is the sprinkling of gold dust which we are sadly lacking.

    • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 12/07/2018 at 2:33 pm

      Yep we had it with Gazza and Hod but no more.

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 2:55 pm

        Yes thats my point Andy.
        England had blood and guts and they tried to hold the score by not committing too many forward (its also possible Croatia wouldnt let them)
        In any case…they lost even the edge in blood and guts at that point.

        • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:01 pm

          Its just my opinion

  • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 2:59 pm

    In my google daily thread I got an articke suggesting a Harry MaGuire tweet that was relative to us and clicked on it…it was HITC….so I pulled back…now Im eager to know what it was…
    Am I brainwashed?

    • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 3:02 pm

      YOU. WILL. CLICK. THE. LINK. AGAIN.

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:11 pm

        I am not allowed
        Alternate universes are us

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:12 pm

        We will take you back to a place they call….The Twilight Zone…..

    • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 3:09 pm

      It was just a bunch of tweets from Spurs fans urging Maguire to join us.

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:15 pm

        Good I kept my hope up…Not

  • stevo1987 12/07/2018 at 3:11 pm

    Hello playmates…..

    • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 3:13 pm

      Good grief, another one!

      Welcome to the edge Stevo.

      • stevo1987 12/07/2018 at 3:15 pm

        Just so you know it’s “me”… My posts will contain minimal football content, poor jokes, and winding Ron up. Ok, not the last bit. New broom and all that.

        • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:16 pm

          Here is a broom

        • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 3:17 pm

          Well that’s what this place was largely set up for, so make yourself at home.

        • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:19 pm

          We are good…Welcome Steve!!!!

        • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 3:19 pm

          Wotcha Stevo. And welcome!

          • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:20 pm

            Fats Dominoes

        • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 3:26 pm

          Wot a disappointment. It’s all down to me still then. 😛

          • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 4:46 pm

            If you need a hand I’m always…

    • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:13 pm

      My nemesis mate Stevo!

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:14 pm

        No criticizing me!
        There are enough here that do that

        • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:14 pm

          😊

          • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 4:47 pm

            You live forrit Ron.. 😘

        • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:14 pm

          😊

  • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:15 pm

    To the both of you!!

  • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 3:16 pm

    What I’m glad to see the back off is the both the fake and the mass hysteria that gets whipped up by the media.

    Seeing people who normally couldn’t give two figs about football (er, people like me? Hmm, hang on) jumping on the bandwagon.

    Also, what is all this grown men in face-paint crying thing. Ugh.

    Now it’s over I’m glad it’s over.

    • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:17 pm

      It isnt

      Wash wash
      It is NOW

    • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 3:18 pm

      And the ghastly Rebeka Vardy.

    • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 3:22 pm

      Here’s my particular pet hate: we’re approaching the final stages of a match where your team is losing and the camera finds you in a crowd, so what do you do? Wave and smile like an idiot proving that you haven’t tapped into the emotion of the game at all.

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 3:25 pm

        You wouldnt be looking at the Camera unless you were Piers Morgan

    • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 3:40 pm

      Oh yeah, and my missus either ‘punditing’ at me during the game or asking me silly questions. Like this exchange during the Franch/Belgium game:
      Mrs: Drogba? I recognise that name. Who does he play for?
      Me: (I know who she means, but still…) Drogba? He’s not playing tonight.
      Mrs: Oh. But who does he normally play for?
      Me: I don’t know. He might have retired. I don’t know. Do you mean Pogba?
      Mrs: Who’s Pogba?
      Me: The bloke in telly playing for France.
      Mrs: Not Drogba?
      Me: No! F*k sake (mutters under breath).
      Mrs: So who does he play for?
      Me: I told you, I don’t know.
      Mrs: Not him, the other one.
      Me: Do you mean Pogba? (I know she does).
      Mrs: Yes. Him.
      Me: (Long, deep sigh). Man Utd.
      Mrs: Not Chelsea?
      Me: No! Not feckin Chelsea! Man Utd.Some
      Mrs: Alright, alright. Calm down. So who plays for Chelsea then?
      Me: What the f… What do you mean “who plays for Chelsea” (I know she means Drogba)? You’re thinking about Drogba. Okay? Drogba and Pogba are two different players. Okay. This one playing is Pogba. Alright?
      Mrs: Oh. She says (yawning). Do you want a cup of tea?

      And so on… I’m glad that’s over.

      • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 3:42 pm

        Several laughing emojis.

      • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 12/07/2018 at 4:06 pm

        Brilliant 😂.
        In my case it would be
        Mrs: what are you watching?
        Me: Football, golf, cricket, cycling, tiddly Winks etc.
        Mrs: OK talk to you later,bye.

  • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 3:24 pm

    Welcome Stevo! Great to have you here.
    I have a new blog ready and waiting, should I publish it now, or leave this one running for a bit longer?

    • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 3:28 pm

      NOOOOOWWWWWWW!

      • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 3:29 pm

        Or later. I’m easy.

    • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 3:29 pm

      I don’t think we should be posting more than one new blog per day.

      • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 3:34 pm

        Ok agreed, I’ll save it for publishing tomoz.

        • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 3:36 pm

          Dammit. You’ve got me all excited now.

          • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 3:43 pm

            Do I lose it if I close it? It is showing as saved.

            • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 3:44 pm

              No idea. But what I’d do in your shoes is copy and paste the body of the text to Notepad or something just to make sure you don’t lose it.

              • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 3:47 pm

                Done and safe, tarT aff.

                • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 3:47 pm

                  Thumbs-up emoji.

              • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 3:49 pm

                Notepad? Feckin’ Notepad?! Jeez. Feckin’ Notepad.

                • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 3:53 pm

                  Dammit, just figured out that I can’t read my own handwriting.

            • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 3:55 pm

              You should be able to set a publish date and time.

              • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 3:57 pm

                So you can! Scheduled for publishing one minute past midnight.

                • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 3:59 pm

                  Poof!

  • SeattleSpursGuy 12/07/2018 at 3:30 pm

    Just saw a post on Twitter that struck a cord with me:

    Twitter has taught me that England win together as a team but lose as Tottenham. Great logic.

    Apt.

    • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 3:44 pm

      Reminds me of the good players = Poch, bad players = Levy thought pattern.

      • Superspoz 🏆 12/07/2018 at 3:48 pm

        Nah it’s just normal procedure. At my house when the kids are behaving,they’re mine and wen they’re not, they’re hers.. simples.

        • SeattleSpursGuy 12/07/2018 at 3:55 pm

          Yeah, the Blame Culture. I think it was obvious that England did as well as it did in large part because of Spurs players, not in spite of them.

  • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 12/07/2018 at 4:08 pm

    Welcome Stevo, nice to see you on ere.

  • SeattleSpursGuy 12/07/2018 at 4:30 pm

    stevo1987
    Just so you know it’s “me”… My posts will contain minimal football content, poor jokes, and winding Ron up. Ok, not the last bit. New broom and all that.

    Hey, fellow outcast! Welcome Stevo.

  • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 4:31 pm

    So, come Sunday, the number of players that have taken part in a World Cup final whilst on the books at Tottenham doubles.
    History in the may king.

    • SeattleSpursGuy 12/07/2018 at 4:34 pm

      I’m totally backing Hugo, in spite of a few disagreeable types on that France squad.

      • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 4:35 pm

        Damn right SSG.

      • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 4:49 pm

        Yurp.

      • HD 12/07/2018 at 6:40 pm

        SSG: I missed your message on the previous blog. Let me see how things go. If I can get away I will ask FO for your email. Thanks either way.

  • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 4:35 pm

    SpursOfficial on Twitter:

    #OnThisDay in 2012, @JanVertonghen joined the Club!

    Verts in response:

    Been a great 6 years so far. Look forward to what comes this year 🙌🏻 #COYS #THFC

    This makes me happy.

    • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 4:41 pm

      He’s picked himself up spectacularly after that Anfield gaff. There’s no one better.

    • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 4:42 pm

      Well if that isn’t a thinly veiled reference to “pay me the going rate or I’m off” I don’t know what is.

    • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 5:04 pm

    • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 5:05 pm

  • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 4:43 pm

    UnkleTaff

    Anybody else remember that period a couple of years ago when he declared that Alli was his favourite player?

    Yes, I believe he referred to Ali as his love child. I went back to that blog and took a screen shot of that comment which I posted in a comment to remind him, suffice to say he wasn’t overly impressed. Smile i did..

    • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 4:55 pm

      Good man. I spent a while looking for it but I couldn’t find it.

      I remember it came about six months after he denounced Alli’s arrival as a signing Newcastle or Everton would be pleased with and that he wouldn’t make any impact at all in the forthcoming season…

      • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 5:03 pm

        If we signed Messi, I’m sure he’d find some reason to moan.

  • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 4:52 pm

    Superspoz
    Stat of the day.
    Kyle walker blocked more shots with his bollocks more than any other England player.

    Kyle Walker and his unfeasibly big gonads.

  • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 5:06 pm

    Hello Stevo, great to see you here. 👍

    • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 5:09 pm

      How can you see him hear?

      • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 5:10 pm

        It’s great to hear him, see?

        • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 12/07/2018 at 5:12 pm

          He ain’t got no distractions
          Can’t hear those buzzers and bells
          Don’t see lights a flashin’
          Plays by sense of smell
          Always gets a replay
          Never seen him fall
          That deaf…

          • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 5:13 pm

            inately doesn’t rhyme at the end.

      • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 5:16 pm

        I heard a rumour…

  • cavey 12/07/2018 at 5:50 pm

    I’m rooting for Croatia in the final

    • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 6:02 pm

      Me too. Sorry Hugo, but cheer on the French? I don’t think so.

      • SeattleSpursGuy 12/07/2018 at 6:31 pm

        Totally get that, but as a Yank I don’t have the baggage with France. Also, I can’t cheer for Rat Boy, magnificent player that he is.

        • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 6:34 pm

          I can. Quite easily. Seeing how I named my dog after him.

          • Freund or Foe 12/07/2018 at 6:38 pm

            You named your dog Ratboy?

            • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 6:39 pm

              I had a feeling it would be you.

            • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 6:39 pm

              He wasnt too paw

              • Freund or Foe 12/07/2018 at 6:43 pm

                I dunno, I thought he looked pretty rough. Wasn’t much of a Luka.

                • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 6:49 pm

                  Theres got to be a joke there somewhere about Ratichic!! Must be a poodle left somewhere!

                  • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 7:04 pm

                    I used to know a chap (around the first gulf war) who had two lurcher dogs called scud and patriot. Quite apt I thought.

                    • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 7:05 pm

                      All allies I tell ya,,,

                    • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 7:10 pm

                      One ran in a straight line, the other used to veer off…

        • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 6:37 pm

          But the Statue of Liberty….to be franc…

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 6:38 pm

        Im xheering the best team….think Mbpappe is le bez Nez

  • Flat Oeuf 12/07/2018 at 6:08 pm

    Steeeeeev-oooooo. Get in.

    • stevo1987 12/07/2018 at 7:03 pm

      Viva the revolution!!

  • TCY 12/07/2018 at 6:39 pm

    Point of information—are all the Oeufsters banned from the old blog like I gather I am?

    • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 6:41 pm

      ….only in Cincy

      • TCY 12/07/2018 at 6:43 pm

        😁😁😂

    • Freund or Foe 12/07/2018 at 6:41 pm

      Haven’t tried to post, but would assume so.

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 6:47 pm

        Self Exiled?

        • Freund or Foe 12/07/2018 at 6:51 pm

          Yes, for quite a while. I emailed you at the time, not sure if you got it. I went back once for just a few comments, but that was a while back too. Harry deleted them then put them back, not sure if they stayed after that.

          • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 6:55 pm

            Im not angry at Harry because its a free world.
            His Blog. He writes what he wants. We do what we want. He gets upset but doesnt want to look at reality. I cant help that.
            He cant dictate the terms.
            We cant tell him what he should be doing.
            Simples.
            Move on.

  • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 6:46 pm

    Fatty B
    Oh yeah, and my missus either ‘punditing’ at me during the game or asking me silly questions. Like this exchange during the Franch/Belgium game:
    Mrs: Drogba? I recognise that name. Who does he play for?
    Me: (I know who she means, but still…) Drogba? He’s not playing tonight.
    Mrs: Oh. But who does he normally play for?
    Me: I don’t know. He might have retired. I don’t know. Do you mean Pogba?
    Mrs: Who’s Pogba?
    Me: The bloke in telly playing for France.
    Mrs: Not Drogba?
    Me: No! F*k sake (mutters under breath).
    Mrs: So who does he play for?
    Me: I told you, I don’t know.
    Mrs: Not him, the other one.
    Me: Do you mean Pogba? (I know she does).
    Mrs: Yes. Him.
    Me: (Long, deep sigh). Man Utd.
    Mrs: Not Chelsea?
    Me: No! Not feckin Chelsea! Man Utd.Some
    Mrs: Alright, alright. Calm down. So who plays for Chelsea then?
    Me: What the f… What do you mean “who plays for Chelsea” (I know she means Drogba)? You’re thinking about Drogba. Okay? Drogba and Pogba are two different players. Okay. This one playing is Pogba. Alright?
    Mrs: Oh. She says (yawning). Do you want a cup of tea?
    And so on… I’m glad that’s over.

    No Dogma we are British!

  • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 6:52 pm

    UnkleTaff
    Well if that isn’t a thinly veiled reference to “pay me the going rate or I’m off” I don’t know what is.

    You know what The Green means in the States…

  • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 6:59 pm

    I like France been there a lot. Never had any problem with the french or any other countries peoplefor me distrust creates distrust and fingers get pointed.
    Its not about loving the world its to do with discerning what is good a bad from any or all.
    Viva la France and Good Luck to the Croats.
    Viva la Footie!

    • stevo1987 12/07/2018 at 7:05 pm

      I only watch Spurs and England. If they are not in the World Cup Final I won’t be watching.

      • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 7:08 pm

        What about England?

      • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 7:09 pm

        Not sure I’ll watch the 3rd/4th place game. Reckon it’s gonna be a Welbeck/Phil Jones/Cahill/Vardy bore fest.

        • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 7:12 pm

          Should be played between the fans.

        • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 7:12 pm

          I’m convinced Kane will start to maximise his Golden Boot chances. As it stands both Lukaku and MBappe can still catch him.

          • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 7:24 pm

            I’ll wager he gets no more than 45mins, if anything. No doubt he’ll want to play as much as possible.

            • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 7:27 pm

              I’ll not be entering into any wagers with you after what happened last time…

              • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 7:32 pm

                its about time you paid up. I’ll assume that the new blog changes things, and we can expect to see you at the NA invasion later in the year? I’d love to buy you a Bacardi and coke.

                • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 7:40 pm

                  If I have any regrets about moving to Wales (I don’t) it’s that it happened just as all this was getting going.

                  Sadly, what with me having four dogs now, there’s no chance such a trip will be possible.

                  • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 7:42 pm

                    Bring them along!

                  • Flat Oeuf 12/07/2018 at 7:42 pm

                    Ah, the old 4 dogs defence. You really don’t like Bacardi and Coke, do you?

                    • UnkleTaff 12/07/2018 at 7:42 pm

                      The Bacardi and Coke part of it is fine…

                  • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 7:43 pm

                    Understand mate, shame.

  • SeattleSpursGuy 12/07/2018 at 7:08 pm

    West London Sport claim Conte is no longer Chelsea boss, with the club set to announce his departure. Former Napoli boss Maurizio Sarri is in line to take over.

    https://www.westlondonsport.com/chelsea/football-conte-leaving-chelsea-updated

    • Superspoz 🏆 12/07/2018 at 7:46 pm

      Idiot’s, ah well below is a list of Sarri’s achievements.

      .

      • Superspoz 🏆 12/07/2018 at 7:47 pm

        Can’t wait for their thurday/sunday adventure.

      • SeattleSpursGuy 12/07/2018 at 7:54 pm

        Just took a look at this career. He’s 59, but has only managed in the Italian top flight for the last four seasons. Knocked around the lower leagues for years before that.

        • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 12/07/2018 at 8:02 pm

          Seems the days of Abramovich blasting everyone out of the water are gone. Welcome to the real world Roman.

  • Superspoz 🏆 12/07/2018 at 7:44 pm

    Hugo will probably have the best game of his life, win the world cup and then drop it as he goes to lift it.

    • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 7:49 pm

      The problems will come when he passes it on. Straight over the full backs head and into the crowd.

      • Superspoz 🏆 12/07/2018 at 7:54 pm

        Ah, of course.

  • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 8:20 pm

    Wow fukkaduck, them NFL tickets aren’t cheap.
    £600 for the tunnel club
    £500 for the ‘stratus’ which is either the sky lounge or boxes?
    £55 to £300 for other tickets.
    Thankfully I don’t give a hoot for the Non Football League..

    • stevo1987 12/07/2018 at 8:21 pm

      Do the players have to drop their shorts for the 600 quid punters?

      • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 8:25 pm

        The half time food platter will be served on the players sweaty groin guards..

        • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 9:09 pm

          For 600 sovs I want the half time food platter served on the players sweaty grions. Er … hang on. I haven’t thought this through …

    • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 8:24 pm

      Kerching.
      This stadium will blow the NFL bosses away.

      • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 9:05 pm

        Not f*cking likely.

  • SeattleSpursGuy 12/07/2018 at 8:24 pm

    Statement from Dele on Twitter:

  • HD 12/07/2018 at 8:27 pm

    Stevo-Reno, welcome to land of the Steve’s.👍

    • stevo1987 12/07/2018 at 8:36 pm

      Ta matey.

      • DAVID 12/07/2018 at 9:43 pm

        Alright Steve, good to see you 😊.

  • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 8:29 pm

    Ah The Love Boat.
    They don’t make em like that any more..

    • Superspoz 🏆 12/07/2018 at 8:35 pm

  • Caspurs 12/07/2018 at 8:51 pm

    Stadium update:
    Tissues at the ready chaps.
    https://www.neilperryphoto.com/new-tottenham-hotspur-stadium/

    • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 9:01 pm

      More naked Neil Perry photos?

    • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 12/07/2018 at 9:08 pm

      Pfft, nuffing on Nuts!

    • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 9:20 pm

      Gosh, they look familiar!

    • foeorfreund 12/07/2018 at 9:21 pm

      The rear of the south stand is a sight to behold.

      • Flat Oeuf 12/07/2018 at 9:51 pm

        Bootyfull.

  • DAVID 12/07/2018 at 9:28 pm

    Sad but all to predictable that now England are out, the knives are out from both supporters and the press.
    On the subject of the new blog,I’d say one a day is perfect, otherwise it becomes a bit like the old tv programme” never mind the quality feel the width”, which I believe Ron starred in.

    • SpurAndy 🍒 🥧 12/07/2018 at 9:32 pm

      Ron was perfick for the roll.

      John Bluthal
      https://www.imdb.com/media/rm729786880/nm0089944/

      • DAVID 12/07/2018 at 9:42 pm

        Ron before he discovered barber shops and razor blades

        • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:17 pm

          My mum once saud about me dad..and she WAS funny…he wears a hair piece…he has a hearing aid… false teeth…glasses…and if he had one more thing I wouldnt kniw whether to sleep in the bed or the $@%£¥& drawer!!!!

    • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:22 pm

      Great program from an industry that was brilliant… it wasnt as sophosticated a show as some but i loved that industry.

      • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 10:22 pm

        Everybody out!

        • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:36 pm

          Lok!!!

          • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:37 pm

            Lol!!!

  • Sniper 12/07/2018 at 9:57 pm

    Greetings fellow refugees.
    I already delved into my post mortem on the corpse that is the England loss in the previous blog, so I won’t go there again.
    On a separate note; does anyone share my inner angst that we might suffer a really poor season (or two) as we transition into that magnificent new stadium?
    I’m not talking about ‘doing a Villa’ as I trust Levy and owners enough that this wouldn’t happen.
    But it will take a while for the players to settle into the new surroundings and I don’t see many marque signings being lined up to strengthen us right now.
    I dread a lower half finish andbhalf empty stadium a couple or more years hence…

    • stevo1987 12/07/2018 at 10:02 pm

      No, not me. I’m going with things can only get better… Just want to say thanks for the warm welcome. 🙂

      • Sniper 12/07/2018 at 10:11 pm

        Hi Stevo! Glad you could make it over from The Dark Side (Insert trademark thingy)

    • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:07 pm

      I have no fear Sniper.
      Its nabout one game or one or two seasons for me its about faith in the future and I have that. Signings for me do not mean a lit unless they can make a real difference in our team. A CM of creative power mostly.
      We are ok in most positions.
      We need a talisman in MF.would be my wish.
      I am so impressed we gad more players of relevance than any other team at the WC,I am proud of us.
      We need a Gascoigne,Cantona;Blanchflower,Zidane etc.
      To make a real difference to the next level.

      • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 10:14 pm

        Come Mr Talisman, talis me banana…

      • Sniper 12/07/2018 at 10:14 pm

        Amen to that Ron. We have always had a classy playmaker or two in the middle of the park. Whilst I like Eriksen, he doesn’t sit deep and dictate. We need another deeper playmaker.

        • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:19 pm

          Sniper where have you been??????????. 10 years on blogs and nobody has understood me!!!
          They laughed when I said all that!!!!

          • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 10:21 pm

            It wasn’t that that made us all laugh…

            • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:35 pm

              So wot made you laff den????

          • Sniper 12/07/2018 at 10:24 pm

            I have downloaded an App to my tablet from Play Store called Ronglishometer Translator

            • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:31 pm

              Did you pay
              Its only $199.95 on Amazon.com

            • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:34 pm

              And mate its a Ronhlish Ipp

    • 61SpursNut 12/07/2018 at 10:07 pm

      I forsee no such problem. Last season we squatted in that Wembley cesspit, devoid of atmosphere for the most part and had our second most successful season in the league since the sixties. And we showed some real class in the Champions League.

      Watch us rise!

      • Sniper 12/07/2018 at 10:22 pm

        A good point well expressed….!
        This new stadium is going to be extraordinary when full. The noise and atmosphere will be amazing. Hope to make a pilgrimage within my lifetime!
        I couldn’t give two hoots about the concourse and back of house facilities. Never have. All I want is a bag of monkey nuts from the vendor on the terraces and an atmosphere that matches the old Wembley when it was 100k mostly standing, or Craven Cottage with 40k crammed in 1968 Fulham home to Yanited, Best, Law, Charlton versus Haynes et al.

        • Fatty B 12/07/2018 at 10:28 pm

          If one is going to make a pilgrimage one ought to do it within one’s lifetime if one wishes to make the most of it.

          • Sniper 12/07/2018 at 10:34 pm

            I expressed my wish to have my ashes scattered in the goalmouth at the Park Lane End way back in the 70’s. The thought of being slid in and out to behind the South Stand on a retractable pitch might be regarded as a journey rather than pilgrimage!

            • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:42 pm

              Yes that was my wish too….

              • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:44 pm

                Its religious!!!
                But they have to earn the urn

                • Sniper 12/07/2018 at 10:48 pm

                  My wish has gone up in smoke

          • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:45 pm

            Its the final word

        • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:33 pm

          I loved Fulham with its cottage and Tommy Trinder

          • Sniper 12/07/2018 at 10:37 pm

            Was a regular there with my old man late 60’s (he was a Fulham man). I used to stand on a timber orange box down the front having been passed overhead from half way up the old riverside terrace.

            • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:40 pm

              I go back to Jimmy Hill Macedo George Cohen Haynes…what a team but short lived….alwats had a go

              • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:41 pm

                And…MULLERY,!

                • Sniper 12/07/2018 at 10:47 pm

                  Sniffer Clarke. Jimmy Conway. Les Barrett.
                  Nostalgia ain’t what it used to be….

    • Sexy Beast 12/07/2018 at 10:41 pm

      The atmosphere will be 100 times better then Wemberlane, if we can finish third at Wembers then i expect at least a second place finish next season. Mid table is not even a possibility, i wouldn’t rule out a slow start due to the World Cup and pre season training though.

    • Sexy Beast 12/07/2018 at 10:44 pm

      Fellow refugees, hehe

  • ronwol196061 12/07/2018 at 10:27 pm

    SeattleSpursGuy
    Statement from Dele on Twitter:
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    Im.proud of the lads.
    They did laxk something and that thing is difficult to find and thats creative players for England.
    The Irish and Scots were often in tjose roles before the eurooeans etc .
    In music England is creative…in the arts…humour…ads etc.
    Its crazy that the English football world had often lacked this.

    • Sexy Beast 12/07/2018 at 10:48 pm

      I think the 3 5 2 works well against weaker oppo, we got overran in midfield from about 30 min onwards, if only he’d have gone 4 5 1 seconds half….

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