Antonio Conte holds Tottenham talks and is leading contender for job

Terms discussed with Conte, who quit Inter last week
Spurs trying to recruit Fabio Paratici as sporting director


David Hytner, The Guardian
@DaveHytner
Wed 2 Jun 2021 15.41 BST

Tottenham have opened talks with Antonio Conte about becoming their manager. Daniel Levy has overseen an extensive search to secure a permanent successor to José Mourinho, which has not been without its frustrations, and Conte is now considered to be the leading contender.

Levy has discussed personal terms with Conte, who left his job as the manager of Internazionale last Wednesday, three and a half weeks after leading the club to their first Serie A title in 11 years.

Spurs are also trying to recruit the former Juventus sporting director Fabio Paratici as Levy considers going back to a two-tier management structure, raising questions over the future of Steve Hitchen, effectively the head of recruitment. Levy has previously employed Damien Comolli, Frank Arnesen and David Pleat in the role of sporting director.

Juventus announced last Wednesday that Paratici’s contract would not be renewed, ushering him away after 11 years. Conte worked with him between 2011 and 2014 when he won three Serie A titles with Juventus.

Conte, who won the Premier League with Chelsea in 2017, would be an exciting appointment, if a little at odds with the profile of manager Levy has prioritised. There is scepticism in some quarters as to whether a deal will be concluded.

Conte left Inter because he was unhappy at their plan to sell about €80m of players to plug holes in their balance sheet. He had wanted backing for signings and a greater chance to build on his title win. The 51-year-old would reasonably expect to be offered something similar by Levy but it is unclear where the money would come from, with Spurs having suffered big losses recently.

Levy wrote in his end-of-season programme notes that he wanted a manager whose “values reflect those of our great club and return [the team] to playing football with the style for which we are known – free-flowing, attacking and entertaining – whilst continuing to embrace our desire to see young players flourish from our academy alongside experienced talent”.

In many respects, the template was a figure in the mould of Mauricio Pochettino, the manager before Mourinho, who worked wonders on a relatively small budget, developing a host of young players as he secured Champions League qualification in four successive seasons.

Pochettino joined Paris Saint-Germain in January and Levy has explored the possibility of bringing him back. PSG have indicated they are not willing to let him leave; he has a further two years on his contract.

Levy has previously spoken to Ajax’s Erik ten Hag, who remains a contender, despite his club having triggered a one-year extension to his deal. Hansi Flick was also in the frame, only for him to leave Bayern Munich and agree to take over from Joachim Löw as the Germany manager after Euro 2020. And there have been talks with Ralf Rangnick, believed to be over a director’s position. Spurs’ interest in Julian Nagelsmann and Brendan Rodgers came to nothing, as the former went from RB Leipzig to Bayern and the latter said he was committed to Leicester.

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Chauveljn
3 months ago

I was going to catalogue available free agent coaches at this point. Then I saw how many there are out there and didn’t bother. Just to say a lot!

A select few:

AVB, Gross, Ramos, Klinsmann, Rebrov, Benitez, Howe, Sarri, Valverde, Favre, Lampard

Galtier has yet to leave Lille. A statement from the club today states he is still their coach. Appears to be some hitch with a publicised move to Nice. All grist to the mill.

Paleo
Paleo
3 months ago

If the bloke was asking for things that can’t be delivered,What was Levy meant to do?

Flat Oeuf
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Paleo

“Can’t be delivered” is a choice, not an impossibility, Paleo. Other clubs seem to be delivering ok, despite FFP, despite the pandemic. I’ve come to see it as a lack of will and a lack of willingness to take risks. On Joe’s behalf because he doesn’t care about the Club, just the investment. On Levy’s because it hits him directly in the pocket to push us on as he either has to take a share hit for Joe to invest more, or he has to load some (more, cheap) debt onto the club which lowers the value and therefore his shareholding. There is no “can’t”. It’s won’t.

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  Flat Oeuf

Wasn’t Mourinho a massive risk?

Flat Oeuf
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Not in Levy’s mind. Quite the opposite. He though he was buying guaranteed success but he was looking at Mourinho of 5+ years ago.

Flat Oeuf
Admin
3 months ago

Yes but I doubt he asked for £500m. Truth is, we probs need to spend £250m+/- to challenge for the PL. spent wisely and with a top manager that would give us a chance again. Not going to happen though, is it?

Flat Oeuf
Admin
3 months ago

No skin off Conte’s nose to see how desperate Levy was to get him but can you imagine what he thought when Levy told him there was no pressure to win trophies!

Flat Oeuf
Admin
3 months ago

The Italian press we’re going on about how impressed he was with the stadium and facilities etc. It’s just the short-term ambition didn’t match the long-term planning.

Flat Oeuf
Admin
3 months ago

He left Chelski in 2018 and we didn’t get into the new stadium until 2019, I think. The £250m figure was mine, not his btw.

Gdawg
Gdawg
3 months ago

I don’t know who was responsible, but the media chatter that basically had Conte in the dugout was not helpful. Sure you know his MO, but it would hurt to have a chat with the guy. Once you know what his terms are, we should have parted ways there and then if the gulf was too wide. But to feel like we did significant groundwork only to pull out, feels amateurish. Of course we don’t know what exactly happened but the optics for the fans are not good, of a team that is well run with a succession plan

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Flat Oeuf

Other clubs delivering? Like two other clubs? I wonder what their secret is.

Flat Oeuf
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

*5 clubs

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Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  Flat Oeuf

That list is wrong. City have notched up five Premier League titles, two FA Cups and six Carabao Cups since 2010.

That’s 13 of the domestic honours available in 11 years. Because of vast quantities of money injected from a sovereign wealth fund and no other reason.

The graphic must be years old.

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Flat Oeuf
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Yes, my bad. It’s even worse than this meme states.

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Flat Oeuf

6 by that metric, considering Leicester. I’m not sure Arsenal and Manure fans would agree that their club is delivering.

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

And Wigan. 2013 FA Cup win against City.

Flat Oeuf
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

Well quite. And yet they’re delivering more than ENIC have for us. Many Citeh fans are probably more disappointed they lost the CL final than they are happy they won the PL.
Mate, I’m getting sick of nothing to show – and no immediate prospect of it either. And I’m sick of Levy’s methods. Our club deserves better.

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Flat Oeuf

I get your frustration, especially when getting so close after decades of mediocrity. That’s what makes the last two seasons feel particularly horrible. Can’t agree re deserve, I don’t see how there can be any level of deserving for one club over another in football.

Flat Oeuf
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

Yes, what I meant to write was that our fans deserve better, rather than the club over another club We stuffed Wembley to the rafters, have bought up the season tickets and, before that, sat through years of mediocrity. ENIC’s investment has gone from around £47m from 2000-2007 to approx £2bn now. We’ve got a lovely big cash cow of a stadium but the football being played in it has been pretty shit since we moved in – due to lack of the right investment in the squad at the right time. Levy seems t have acknowledged this, but even his choice for a DoF seems tainted with too much of an eye on the pound note. Paratici’s defining MO is finding players out of contract. I’d rather get someone who has a very clear footballing philosophy that fits with our club and recruits managers and players accordingly.

GDawg
GDawg
3 months ago
Reply to  Flat Oeuf

I think he wants success. But he doesn’t seem to have a clear idea as to how to achieve that. Even when a way became clear, he ended up railroading Poch by penny pinching again. But in the end it will cost us much more to bring things back around

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  Paleo

Due diligence. Then a decision. I was hoping it could work but if the board wasn’t convinced, it’s a no. After Mourinho, the board probably pushed back against another high risk appointment. I mean, it was very high risk indeed.

I’m over my annoyance now, and expect a rational appointment for a young, hungry coach for whom Spurs is a step up.

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
3 months ago
Reply to  Paleo

Is Levy such a stupid f*ck he cant read about Contes MO his history and yet he still offered 13 mil a year??????????

SeattleSpursGuy
SeattleSpursGuy
3 months ago

I am calm; so, so calm.

cavey
cavey
3 months ago

I said yesterday ‘Conte wouldn’t take any shit from Levy’ It seems I was spot on!

Paleo
Paleo
3 months ago
Reply to  cavey

I thought Levy fucked him out the door

cavey
cavey
3 months ago
Reply to  Paleo

Levy fucked him out the door because he wouldn’t play his game of ‘jam tomorrow’.

cavey
cavey
3 months ago
Reply to  cavey

If your hiring the best, then fucking back him or stop pretending!

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  Paleo

There’s so much PR spin from several camps circulating. I’ve even read that as incoming DoF, it was Paratici warning Spurs to think very carefully about the pros and cons re hiring Conte. I mean, he knows him really well, perhaps he offered an inside track that swayed the outcome?

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Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  cavey

Don’t take no…

Matt
Matt
3 months ago

Glad Conte if off the table. I’d take Potter or preferably Harry on a one year caretaker role while we get our sh1t together 😃. We may go forward we may go back but we’d have some excitement and fun after two joyless years!

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
3 months ago
Reply to  Matt

The wrong guy is off the table!

Chauveljn
3 months ago

For clarity, I think the difference between my criticism and say Harry Hotspur, is I want Levy to succeed and get pissed off when he doesn’t and it looks self inflicted. That’s surely a world away from someone who has denounced ENIC and Levy as devils because they haven’t squandered every single penny they have on players and takes no other factors into consideration. He now actively wants Levy to fail in some vain hope he will leave.

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GDawg
GDawg
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

I think everyone here wants him to succeed. I’d much prefer not having to complain and just be happy to have a team run and playing well

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  GDawg

This.

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  GDawg

I’m sure fans of most clubs feel the same way. Apart from Cheats and ManC, can any other fans say they are happy with the way their clubs are run? Pooh for the last 2-3 years, yes, but they were in disarray for decades. Leicester as well actually, but only for a short period.
Us Spurs fans have such high expectations, which in my mind are unrealistic considering what we’re up against. That’s not to say that things couldn’t be better, poor decisions have been made no doubt.

GDawg
GDawg
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

I was pretty happy with the Poch era. What’s frustrating is that with a little backing Poch might still be here. And we could have get things going

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  GDawg

Agreed. Those windows where we didn’t improve the squad were a big mistake. We were flying high, and would have been able to compete for the best players at that point in terms of attracting them, if the finances backed that up.

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

Is this your opinion or fact? I ask for a friend…

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Definitely opinion 🤣🤣

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

Time to go and watch some SERIOUS bloodletting over on Spurs Community, where the corpses were piling up like a zombie apocalypse last time I looked.

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

The wee small hours (about page 2000! on this thread) had some really hacked off posts and posters that have now been banned for attacking other posters as club stooges. You can see the reactions in replies though.

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

(It’s my opinion too. But it’s still an opinion.)

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

You know the expectations come from somewhere .They come from a bit of history and the notion from up top that we are pushing for success.
I think the Super League would have been a leveler for us,and Levy probably thought that as it would fit..get 400 mil etc.
But too few fans trust Levy to the extent of the visions he has talked about in the past.
Lately he seems unhinged with the way he us doing things so I wouldn’t be surprised if Joe is putting pressure on him to change things quickly and he seems to be digging bigger holes
.
Now this is just my opinion.Ive followed it for a long time. We are a nearly club.
Thats not bad for business but it’s terrible for your psyche.
It seems to be getting more haphazard as it goes along

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ronwol196061
ronwol196061
3 months ago
Reply to  GDawg

Yep

Matt
Matt
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Two big differences in fairness 1. Your criticism lacks personal abuse 2. You accept other opinions exist.

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  Matt

Thanks. I know I’m too emotional concerning Spurs and it’s draining. I also know I get things wrong, often.

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
3 months ago

I actually think Levy does care about Spurs but I don’t think he knows what he us doing as far as football goes.
I think he has been panicking lately and his weaknesses are shoemwing up more than ever
He needs to trust someone to run the football side of it but can’t tryst anyone so he finds lackeys which are window dressing.
Levy has gone as far as he can go.

AntSpurj
AntSpurj
3 months ago

So Sorry to hear about your mum in law Nutty, we all send our love and condolences mate x

Chauveljn
3 months ago

‘Vivienne was a big Liverpool fan, as was her brother Charlie, long before the family bought Spurs.’

- Craig Johnston, ex-Liverpool player and one time fiancée of Vivienne, daughter of Joe Lewis.

So this is the future for Spurs, owned by fans of a different club? Says a lot.

https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/6182488/how-craig-johnston-played-for-liverpool-then-lived-with-tottenhams-owners/

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Crikey, talk about look for problems. How many clubs are owned by people who were always fans? How many successful clubs have fan owners? You’re search for “issues” sometimes looks as clueless as our manager search 🤣

cavey
cavey
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

Master blaster!

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  cavey

Sorry Chauv, my response was supposed to be more funny than aggressive, doesn’t read that way. You do like to get a bit Harry Hotspur about it sometimes, Levy ate my hamster, that’s all I was trying to say.

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

I accept your point of view, I’m just searching for clues as for why Spurs are run as ‘a different project’ in such a bloodless way which seems almost unemotional.

GDawg
GDawg
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Is it run any different to ENIC or Lewis’s other interests? He doesn’t see us as a vanity project, or an ego thing. It just seems like we are another entry in his balance sheet

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Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  GDawg

The very fact they epitomised the way they run Spurs as a different project shows they are fully aware this isn’t how other clubs are run.

GDawg
GDawg
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

The on pitch performance doesn’t seem to be a priority. Just the value of the club

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  GDawg

I so don’t get that point of view. Even if value is their only concern, it’s obvious to anyone that the value of the club will increase significantly with success on the football side. The notion that Levy/Lewis don’t get this is a bit far fetched.
We are a different project to Manure, Pooh, Cheats and ManC, but then so is every other PL team.

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

They’ve done very well just muddling through as they have. So we can’t expect change then?

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

There’s already been change. Our net spend of 160mil in the last two seasons is actually more than the entirety of ENIC’s prior ownership. Do you think Levy hired Jose, and tried to get Conte because he doesn’t care about success on the football side? Because winning stuff isn’t important? The evidence is all there to see.

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

Levy hired José because Mourinho seems to have told him that he could do better than Pochettino with the core group. He either misled Levy, or misled himself.
God alone knows why Levy even gave Conte a second thought. Conte had just fallen out with inter just days ago over investment there. Great manager, but wants immediate serious backing.

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

That’s just opinion though, isn’t it? With not too much to back it up I’m afraid. Levy backed Jose last summer big time, even in the midst of a pandemic. We were all happy about this at the time, without the help of hindsight. Some wanted more, obviously, but there weren’t many moaning about a poor transfer window.

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

Of course it’s opinion. Facts are hard to ascertain. Observation is what we have available. Yes, we spent 50 million last summer, admirable in the circumstances. I wonder if Levy would have put out so much for any other manager than his long time crush Mourinho? He may be regretting that now.

Don’t know. That means I can’t express an opinion?

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Of course you can! It’s just that you swerved my point with an opinion based on not much at all. I’d say it’s pretty obvious that Jose was hired to bring success.

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

He was indeed hired for that reason. But what we don’t know is the rationale. Did Levy think José could get a tune out of the existing squad and avoid a painful rebuild because José was a great coach? Or is that a disservice?

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

I think differently. I’d always read (from posts of others) that Lewis’s daughter was a dyed in the wool Spurs fan, but clearly that’s not true. She is Joe’s heir for running the business. People ask why money isn’t invested in the he club by the owners. That happens if the owners are mad fans. They’re not, it explains a lot. As for owners of other clubs, there is a difference that I’ll point out. They probably never were fans of any other Premier League team. Abramovich, Kroenke, Mansour, Glazer, Fenway Group, the Thai owners of Leicester were probably all neutrals with no affiliation. We are owned by a family who actively had family members supporting Liverpool, so I wonder if even Joe himself really cared at any time for Spurs?

Chauveljn
3 months ago

No, not sabotage. Just not concerned with performance other than purely financial. And she is an active businesswoman within the business, not just daddy’s girl.

Chauveljn
3 months ago

The customer is always right!

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago

Embarrassment and the shambolic nature of the Conte chase aside, I think we all know it would never have worked (apart from Dan, obvs). I hope the fool he’s made of himself will push him to get this situation sorted quickly, he’s got some making up to do.

HjD 😷🇺🇸
HjD 😷🇺🇸
3 months ago
Reply to  foeorfreund

It is hard for a narcissist to think of anyone but himself.

Chauveljn
3 months ago

I have a cunning plan, sir…

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Chauveljn
3 months ago

Please delete two failed posts waiting approval please. I must be tired and emotional.

I have a cunning plamChauveljn

My previous post just fell into a black hole guys.. Par for today I guess.

I have a cunning plamChauveljn

“I have a cunning plan, sir…”

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Chauveljn
3 months ago

Anyone seen any glimmers of hope something positive is happening with any potential candidate? Just wondering if Levy really is now waiting to dump this into the lap of Paratici!

What gets me is the seeming lack of human sensitivity and empathy that Levy and the board appears to display for the feelings of the fans. Their hopes are toyed and played with as some kind of amusing sideshow for the owners. As Ronwol put it, how much more suffering can the fans be put through? And what else can be done to trash the reputation of Tottenham Hotspur as a club worthy of being taken seriously?

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Levy got yo the point where he had the stadium and seemingly clean sailing.
Pochs team crumbled at the altar
Mourinho appointment a complete disaster
And this keystone cops Conte situation
Throw in covid and here we are
Joe Lewis must be wondering what schmuck did his daughter marry!

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  ronwol196061

See above. Vivienne Lewis is Joe’s daughter and an active Tavistock director.

ronwol196061
ronwol196061
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Its not impressive

cavey
cavey
3 months ago

Sorry to hear the sad news about your mother-in-law. Hope your wife and you are coping with the loss.

Ronwol196061
Ronwol196061
3 months ago

61 Spurs Njut
 8 hours ago

Levy IS a c*nt and my wife just lost her mother.

Sorry to hear that,Nutty

Funkenschlag!
Admin
3 months ago

Neil Warnock anyone?

Cavey
Cavey
3 months ago

This is Levy to a tee. Not a clue!

Ronwol196061
Ronwol196061
3 months ago

Bloke walks up to a beautiful woman in a bar. She is dressed to the hilt in the finest gear.
She makes eye contact with him,he is really chuffed.He asks her ‘Do you come here often?’ She smiles at him. He asks if he could buy her a drink. She smiles. She says Look big boy lets get to the point,it will cost you 500 quid. He says look I have 50….She leaves saying Ill think about it

Spursy
Spursy
3 months ago

Thought we’d dodged it but I’m now taking it that we’re heading for a Wilderness Year.

You know, old-school Classic Spurs. Our lad hasn’t experienced that yet and is whining already, but I told him, ‘THIS is true Spurs.’ 😂🤣

DAVID
DAVID
3 months ago

Not all bad, we got the monkey, missed out on the organ grinder.

foeorfreund
Admin
3 months ago

Yep, 100%.

89Spurs 👁
89Spurs 👁
3 months ago

He ain’t coming to us, BBC report, no Conte to Spurs. No sh*t.

Funkenschlag!
Admin
3 months ago

Hoofw*nking bunglec*nt.

Last edited 3 months ago by Oh no, not Nuno!
Chauveljn
3 months ago

Lewis to Levy:

“This is another fine mess…”

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Ronwol196061
Ronwol196061
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

Thats about it. Its painful to put in real terms this is about right

Chauveljn
3 months ago

If all else fails, go to the happy place in your mind and exclude all extraneous sensory input.

Chauveljn
3 months ago

Ten am…

“What would you like for lunch today Mr Levy?”
“A simple cheese and pickle on rye will be fine. No wait, make it a quiche Lorraine and green salad. Or will I want cous cous with sun-dried tomato later? I really think fish and chips with peas is best, although there’s a lot to be said for a vegetarian curry and pikora. ”
“I know, Hitchen, what do I want for lunch today? Any recommendations? Wait, not you, I’ll ask Paratici…. ”
Some hours later, “I’ve decided, it’s deep crust sweetcorn and chicken pizza…”
“Canteen closed two hours ago Mr Levy. It is ten at night….A biscuit?”
“Um, chocolate digestive please, no wait, a shortbread finger, or…Steve, what biscuits do I want?”

Last edited 3 months ago by Chauveljn
Chauveljn
3 months ago

Levy managed to break Ally Gold as well, the soul crushing micromanaging nitwit.

Chauveljn
3 months ago

Ally Gold should introduce each new video with the heavily emphasised words “Apparently, although who can tell?…”

Ronwol196061
Ronwol196061
3 months ago

The first post on that You Tube Andy

govand11 hours ago
Someone on twitter said:
“Tottenham were 100% set up as a social experiment to see how much suffering a human can take”
Can’t argue that theory

Chauveljn
3 months ago

Now the Conte chapter seems to be over, are we going to see a second attempt for Pochettino? Because THAT doesn’t appear to fit in with the arrival of a Director of Football who chooses the style of play, and the recruitment profiles. Poch is locking horns at PSG, it would be similar with Paratici.
It is difficult to see how we proceed from here.

Last edited 3 months ago by Chauveljn
Northern Spur
Northern Spur
3 months ago

Just woke to the news about Conte. If reports are true, we’re a long way off competing for the big honours.

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  Northern Spur

And then some. The rebuild is more contingent than ever on the academy throwing up not just talented youngsters, but enough quantity that sufficient can translate that into PL level careers. One every three years won’t cut it imo.

And in turn our academy is competing against successful clubs with shiny trophies and higher profiles which lure the brightest talent.

Last edited 3 months ago by Chauveljn
GDawg
GDawg
3 months ago

https://youtu.be/aelpqWEBHR4

We are Tottenham, this is who we are

Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  GDawg

No, THIS is who we are….

Cryin’, waitin’, hopin’

Last edited 3 months ago by Chauveljn
GDawg
GDawg
3 months ago
Reply to  Chauveljn

The fans are waiting for the world to change

https://youtu.be/oBIxScJ5rlY

Last edited 3 months ago by GDawg
Chauveljn
3 months ago
Reply to  GDawg

😎